Are You a Sheep or Sheepdog? Part I

by Brett & Kate McKay on May 14, 2013 · 146 comments

in A Man's Life, On Manhood


Last December, 58-year-old Ki Suk Han was pushed onto the subway tracks in New York City. Even though 60-90 seconds passed before an oncoming train hit the man, a group of up to eighteen bystanders simply stood on the platform and looked on as the train approached and ran him over. One, a freelance photographer for a New York newspaper, even had time to snap a photo of Han’s last moments.

Six months earlier, 49-year-old Patricia Villa was grabbed and thrown onto the same NYC tracks as Mr. Han. One of her classmates, Luis Polanco, chased down the attacker, punched him, and then, hearing others yell for someone to save her and that a train was coming, turned and joined a group who pulled her off the tracks.

Two nearly identical situations. In the first, bystanders look on and do nothing as a man is killed. In the second, they step in to save a life. Why do some men freeze up and react passively in a crisis, while others take action? Why do some run away from danger and others run toward it?

Why are some men sheep and other men sheepdogs?

And which one are you?

Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs

Last year I took a handgun class at the U.S. Shooting Academy here in Tulsa. During one of our breaks, our burly, mustached instructor shared an insight from retired Army Lt. Col. and author Dave Grossman that’s given me a lot of food for thought this past year.

According to Grossman, the human population can be divided into three groups: sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs.



Most people are sheep. Grossman isn’t using the term pejoratively, he’s simply referring to the fact that most human beings are kind, gentle, and peaceful. The conflicts and ethical dilemmas they’re regularly faced with rarely rise to the level of life and death, good versus evil. For the most part people deal with challenges that are more annoyances than true crises. And when faced with conflict, they generally try to do the right thing, avoid making waves, and demonstrate pro-social behavior.

While most people are kind and good, they simply don’t know how to deal with evil and dangerous people because for the most part they don’t encounter and interact with evil and dangerous people in their day-to-day lives. Like sheep, they largely move about with those who are like them and do as others do. They are content to subsist in a predictable and routine sphere. As they live and graze, they cannot envision anything disrupting their peace or routine, and imagine that each day will proceed like the last. And just like sheep, most people depend on somebody else to protect and take care of them and keep this relatively placid world around them going smoothly, be it the police, military, or some administrative agency.



Wolves are bad guys. They exist in the shadows outside the porous perimeter of safety that surrounds the sheep. Wolves are the sociopaths who commit violent crimes or ignore moral or ethical boundaries with impunity. They take advantage of the sheep’s tendency to be inexperienced with evil, unprepared for attack, and caught flat-footed when a crisis arises. This allows these evil men to, as Grossman puts it, “feed on the [sheep] without mercy.”

According to Grossman, a minutely small percentage of the population can be described as true “wolves.” He puts the number at around 1%.



Sheepdogs are society’s protectors. Grossman himself doesn’t flesh this out (or the other categories) all that deeply, but in reading up on the role of “livestock guardian dogs,” I found an uncannily good description of human sheepdogs.

While both herding dogs and livestock guardian dogs (LGDs) are known as sheepdogs, their roles are quite different. The former bark at, nip, and stare down animals to keep them together and moving in a certain way. Livestock guardian dogs, on the other hand, live with their flock of animals full-time, allowing them to blend in and watch for intruders within the herd. LGDs are placed in the flock as puppies so that they “imprint” on the animals they will be tasked with caring for and protecting. Strongly bonded to them, the LGD will perceive other species as predators and protect those it knows from these potentially hostile outsiders.

Large and protective, the mere presence of a LGD in a herd can deter would-be predators, and those that dare to venture closer often turn tail when the dog simply demonstrates its aggression through barking and intimidation. According to Wikipedia: “LGDs seldom kill predators; instead, their aggressive behaviors tend to condition predators to seek unguarded (thus, non-farm animal) prey. For instance, in Italy’s Gran Sasso National Park, where LGDs and wolves have coexisted for centuries, older, more experienced wolves seem to ‘know’ the LGDs and leave their flocks alone.”

If a predator is not dissuaded by the presence of a LGD, it is ready and willing to attack and fight the predator to the death. And the LGD does not simply wait for a predator to attempt to infiltrate the flock – it also actively patrols its territory, seeking out predators and even luring them in to hunt them. Yet despite their fierceness, LGDs make loyal, gentle companions, and are especially protective of children.

According to Wikipedia, “The three qualities most sought after in LGDs are trustworthiness, attentiveness, and protectiveness—trustworthy in that they do not roam off and are not aggressive with the livestock, attentive in that they are situationally aware of threats by predators, and protective in that they will attempt to drive off predators.” What’s really interesting is the different roles these social creatures can play according to their differing personalities:

“Most [stick] close to the livestock, others tending to follow the shepherd or rancher when one is present, and some drifting farther from the livestock. These differing roles are often complementary in terms of protecting livestock, and experienced ranchers and shepherds sometimes encourage these differences by adjustments in socialization technique so as to increase the effectiveness of their group of dogs in meeting specific predator threats. LGDs that follow the livestock closest assure that a guard dog is on hand if a predator attacks, while LGDs that patrol at the edges of a flock or herd are in a position to keep would-be attackers at a safe distance from livestock. Those dogs that are more attentive tend to alert those that are more passive but perhaps also more trustworthy or less aggressive with the livestock.”

The role of human “sheepdogs” is almost exactly that of their canine counterparts. Like actual sheepdogs, they live among the flock – one of them, and yet different and set apart. They protect the perimeter and vigilantly watch for evil “wolves.” Their mere presence can keep bad men turning on each other instead of on law-abiding citizens, but if they do attack, human sheepdogs are alert and ready to be aggressive. They are prepared to make a stand against those who would do others harm, but outside of times of crisis, they are gentle and trustworthy. Grossman describes human sheepdogs as individuals who have a capacity for violence but also a moral compass and a “deep love for [their] fellow citizens.” Their hardihood and bravery gives them the ability to “walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.”

Sheep find sheepdogs annoying when things are fine. For example, most people grumble about the police when they get a ticket for a minor traffic violation. But when a wolf shows up, and the police catch him, the complaining stops and people turn out to line the streets, cheer them on, and shower them with gratitude.

As with wolves, sheepdogs make up a very small percentage of the population. Grossman guesses this elite group represents just 1% of people.

The Sheep/Sheepdog Continuum

Grossman argues that “the business of being a sheep or sheepdog is not a yes-no dichotomy.” Rather it’s a continuum. Some folks live at the extreme ends of the spectrum and are completely passive sheep or hardened ultimate warriors. Most people, however, fall somewhere in between.

Your “sheepness” or “sheepdogness” can change depending on context, too. I’ve known men who act like fierce sheepdogs in one situation, but have the passivity of lambs in another.

Sheepdogs are Made, Not Born

Being a sheepdog isn’t a matter of birth; it’s a choice – a matter of mental and physical training. In fact, as we’ll see in our next post, we’re hardwired psychologically and sociologically for sheepness. In order to become a sheepdog, you have to consciously decide to do so and then slowly upgrade your mental, physical, and emotional hardware from Sheep 1.0 to Sheepdog 2.0.

Moral and Ethical Sheepdogs

As I said at the outset, I’ve been thinking about this sheep/sheepdog/wolf paradigm for awhile now. The concept has been a driving force in my desire to learn both armed and unarmed self-defense. I don’t want to be a sheep. I want to be a sheepdog and have the capacity to protect my family and loved ones from the wolves that might be out there.

While Grossman uses his sheep/sheepdog/wolf analogy to explain violent confrontations, I think it’s just as applicable to moral and ethical confrontations that we face at work and in our communities as well. One of my favorite shows to watch is American Greed on CNBC. Ever since I learned about Grossman’s analogy, I can’t help but see it play out on the show. There’s typically some guy who’s the wolf that takes advantage of innocent folks — the sheep — by scamming them out of their money. The scam goes on for years because no one does anything to end it, even when they notice something isn’t right. It isn’t until one brave person — the sheepdog — takes action that the bad guy is brought to justice.

And of course we see the same dynamic play out in larger “scams” – the recent banking and housing crisis, for example, was precipitated by tons of underhanded behavior that was witnessed by thousands, and yet only called out by a rare few.

Becoming a Sheepdog

While those who make the military, police work, or emergency response their career have a professional responsibility to be sheepdogs, all men should strive to be more on the sheepdog than the sheep side of the spectrum. The world needs men who are willing to face danger and stand up to dishonesty to save others and preserve the fabric of their communities.

Yet while the sheep/sheepdog paradigm has become more popular and well-known these days, I’ve never really seen it explained beyond naming the categories and leaving it at that. But why are most people sheep? And how do you become a sheepdog? I think these are interesting and important questions to answer, so for the next couple weeks we’ll offer some possible explanations for our ingrained sheepness, as well as ways to overcome those tendencies and become a sheepdog.

{ 146 comments… read them below or add one }

101 Timothy May 16, 2013 at 4:54 pm

What about the sheepdog/wolf continuum? After all, most, if not all wolves consider themselves sheepdogs.

For example, soldiers consider themselves sheepdogs and their adversaries wolves. Their adversaries see things the other way around. The can’t both be right, but they might both be wrong.

A true sheepdog is hard to find.

102 Charlie Eich May 16, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Well done as ever! But I liked the analogy. I look forward to the rest of the series.

103 jim May 16, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Great article, I especially like the point about a sheepdog being made not born. People talk about toughness, but acting tough and being tough are too different things. Toughness is forged through adversity, bad experiences, and overcoming hardship. All things we hope are children never experience, add to this the moral code which is the sheepdogs inner being, allows for grossmans explanation of the 1%, take out the moral code and that is tthe other 1% (wolves). I have never been tested to consider myself a sheep or sheep dog but I train everyday so that in the case that I am tested I will fall to the level of my training rather then to think falsely that I would rise to the occasion.

104 Kyle May 16, 2013 at 11:18 pm

To really simplify things and remove it from the whole ‘wolf/sheedog/sheep’ thing, think of it this way:
“They, honest earth people, will never understand us. Our fears, our hatred, our desire to be at the worst possible place in the world at the exact wrong time because we hope to make a difference, even at the expense of our lives, are incomprehensible to them. And yet, it is so. Our prayer is not, please, God, let it happen on my day off; but, please God, don’t let me screw this up.”

Some people think of duty, honor, courage, and heroism as something that requires a uniform. Some even consider those things a punch line. But some of us think of them as obligations to live by.

105 Robert May 17, 2013 at 11:45 am

Balderdash. “Sheepdog” is a self-flattering title adopted by men who believe themselves divinely ordained to herd the sheep. Note that according to the author, one “upgrades” to “sheepdog.” Daniel Webster had their number: “There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.” “Divine right” by any other name would smell just as bad. Once upon a time, Americans tended to understand this.

The problem is in treating human beings like sheep, either as a self-assessment or as an assessment of others. In the latter case, it always involves treating other men as means and not ends in themselves. This is the true root of all evil. When people permit themselves to be “sheep,” and when self-designated “sheepdogs” encourage this themselves, society starts to crumble. Human beings are the apex predator of Planet Earth. They are not meant to be sheep, however much they may desire and enjoy peace, safety, routine and predictability. The analogy is a loose and dangerous one. Thinking in such terms is a gross evasion of reality which carries consequences. Treating people like sheep encourages many of them to become livestock and dependent and unable bear the burden of civilization and to keep it going. Sheep exist only to graze, be fleeced and turned into mutton. Human beings must live by production and trade. Sheep cannot do that. Eventually, the consequences of our delusions will catch up with us and people will discover the truth: they cannot live as sheep, however much “sheepdogs” may think they can sustain and protect civilization all by themselves.

106 Sid May 17, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Sure appreciate you expanding the understanding of the Sheepdog mentality. I was born that way and I definitely move along the scale depending on the circumstance. This is how most men out in the rural west where I was born and raised are. May more men learn to stand in that gap and protect those who cannot or refuse to protect themselves, physically and more importantly, morally and ethically! The wolves are winning the day it appears… wake up from your overfed and over stimulated slumber, Sheepdawgs! You are needed!!!

107 Wil May 17, 2013 at 1:30 pm

On becoming a sheepdog… do what is right, not what is easy or safe. Its never been said better than this “Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” J.Wayne.

Thanks for a great article, looking forward to more on the subject!

108 Estoy Listo May 17, 2013 at 9:30 pm

Robert’s point is well made. We are a culture that accepts and even celebrates sheep.

Still, what are you going to do, stand by while they get slaughtered by their own ideals?

109 Shane-San May 17, 2013 at 10:58 pm

I read Grossman’s book “On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society” a few years back. Definitely some very eye-opening insights. I had grown up learning how to properly handle and operate firearms, but only recently opted to obtain my concealed carry weapon license. This decision has been a big step in transforming me from a sheep into more of a sheepdog: being responsible for my own protection and, consequently, those around me should a life-or-death situation ever arise. It is all in the mindset however. And while we’re on the subject of sheepdogs, God bless our brave law enforcement officers and members of the armed forces.

110 Matthew May 18, 2013 at 9:23 am

@ Timothy

“For example, soldiers consider themselves sheepdogs and their adversaries wolves. Their adversaries see things the other way around. The can’t both be right, but they might both be wrong. ”

No one lives in reality. We all exist in our own perception of reality. In their heads, both are right.

However, while Hadji strapping a bomb to a child may convince himself he is doing right by his God and country, repelling the Western devils, the US soldier putting himself as a human shield between women or children and harm actually is doing the right and decent thing.

The defining point in this argument is morality. It’s like much like pornogprahy, it’s hard to define but you know it when you see it.

111 nevin brockett May 18, 2013 at 11:51 am

I think this entire concept went completely over Roberts head. Sheepdogs are not those who wish to govern people. They also do not treat anyone like sheep, they step up when they are needed. Anyone who thinks that humans are the apex predator on earth needs to spend some time in the wilderness.

112 Jake May 18, 2013 at 12:53 pm

Will#17 – Maybe the gender thing holds water here, but that’s not the moral of the story

Yoder#19 – The sheepdog type is raised in a strict environment; that is what watches them. They don’t have the luxury of falling through the cracks because their numbers are too many to hold accountable. Very few want them here at all, so they are always being watched and always at risk of having the book throw at them for even the most petty things.

@Mark#28 – Perfect example of being a sheep and making excuses. It’s NYC, I’m pretty sure they’ve memorized the train schedule by now.

@Dan#29 – True, but before you can worry about being corrupted, you have to actually become that thing that could be corrupted. Otherwise, it’s just excuses for cowardice.

@John#31 – To the photographer and those on his side: Do or do not, there is no try.

@Mark#51 – In the animal kingdom, everyone is prey.

@Matthew#55 – The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence – Gin Rummy

@Robert#105 – We are only a Spartan society when we benefit from being so. The nature of sheep is that they are naive and passive. A real sheepdog type doesn’t encourage this mentality, they fight against it.

113 Dart Rod May 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm

‘Your sheepness or sheepdogness can change depending on context too.’
‘ I’ve known men who act like fierce sheepdogs in one situation but have the passivity of lambs in another.’
‘Grossman describes Human sheepdogs as individuals who have a capacity for violence.”

In retrospect, a man who thinks himself a sheepdog is not necessarily so. Unless, he has the capacity to act violently and effectively.
Most so- called (civilian)sheepdogs are like a Black Belt practioner who can spar well in controlled fighting drills but has no experience in the kaos of real world violence which is complex and uncertain.
So we have to be mindful of this idea of sheepdogness and not be overly confident.
Too often I see many guys ‘carrying’ but realistically uncertain of how they will ‘Really’ respond in a life or Death scenerio and what consequences they will face for whatever action they take.
By all means being mentally and physically trained are Pros, but ultimately the true warrior is the one who has been tried and tested on the battlefield.

114 Ron May 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm

I had the opportunity to listen to LTC Grossman speak several years ago. He gave a very dynamic presentation to a room full of soldiers. By the end there wasn’t a dry eye in the house. Studied his book “On Killing” too. He is an impressive guy.

I think the sheepdog analogy is good as far as it goes. The trouble is that it is tough to predict who will be brave in what situation, and like with investment opportunities, past performance does not guarantee future results.

I think that one of LTC Grossman’s points was that repetitive training (or operant conditioning) is a large part of what gives military and law enforcement personnel the ability to take on the ‘sheepdog’ role described here.

Bravery on the battlefield does not necessarily equate to ethical or moral courage. I find myself wondering where one might find the ethical equivalent to basic rifle marksmanship training.

115 Matthew May 18, 2013 at 11:28 pm

@ vincent #92

When did I say the government was our Shepherd? My whole point was that Grossman’s “Sheepdogs” don’t need a cute little moniker. They do what they know is right, and act based on a strong internal code of honor.

There is an old proverb that fits here. “A good man needs no laws. An evil man follows no laws.”

The laws aren’t written for the decent people. Or for evil people. They’re written give the illusion of authority to the mob currently in power. When one realizes this, the world becomes simpler.

What they “allow” you to have? That is sheep mentality. I’m subservient to no man, I accept no masters.

Like the old Persian saying goes, “Nothing is true, everything is permitted.”

116 Matthew May 18, 2013 at 11:33 pm
117 Ryan May 20, 2013 at 2:39 am

Even the toughest of sheepdogs can be killed by the weakest sheep with a gun or a wolf with a team of sheep on acid can take out 5 generations of another population of sheep with the right weapons of war or a sheepdog or sheep can go rogue and become a wolf at any time for any reason, that is my problem with that theory humans aren’t sheep in that sense because they can an be both a sheepdog and a wolf at different times for different reasons and still be painted as the wolf and locked away for another wolf masquerading as a sheepdog for personal gain because they have the right propaganda.

118 George May 20, 2013 at 4:04 pm

This should lead to, are you a sheep dog or are you a Shepard in Part II? Even more rare then the sheep dog is the Shepard who guides the flock of sheep and the sheep dog. What does it take to be one of those?

119 Alexander Connell May 20, 2013 at 9:00 pm

# 110
“However, while Hadji strapping a bomb to a child may convince himself he is doing right by his God and country, repelling the Western devils, the US soldier putting himself as a human shield between women or children and harm actually is doing the right and decent thing.”

And right there you have the means by which those in power have justified every single war in history to the populace.

“THEIR soldiers are immoral, evil cowards but OUR soldiers are noble, selfless heroes doing God’s work.”

Funny how both sides always think they’re right.

120 Master Hahn May 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm

I am a former Marine (late 1960s, early 70s… Second Southeast Asian War Games Era, USA: Second Place Finish); and a police officer for about 29 years. I was on our PD’s SWAT Team for almost 17 years, with 9 of those as Team Supervisor and Crisis Intervention Unit (SWAT, EOD, K9 Trackers, attached Investigative Personnel for Intell Gathering, etc. as scenarios called for) “Assistant Commander”.

Even in the position of Team Supervisor / CIU Asst Cmdr, I retained my slot as Entry Team Commander for the primary Entry Team (as long as the CIU Commander was available if a more complicated scenario). I ended up leaving the Team and then retiring on a full disability (as a Patrol Lieutenant – our SWAT, like 99%, was “part-time”, with members being full-time Patrol, primarily, or Detective), a disability retirement – over 10 years ago – due to injuries suffered “in the line of duty”. (I have had 17 surgeries in my life, with 10 of them – easily the 10 most serious – being for IOD injuries, including a technically broken neck that fortunately did not sever spinal cord.)

Tactically I have had extensive training classes by numerous top quality advanced tactics and/or advanced weapons courses.

Courses sponsored by the International Assoc. of Chiefs of Police, the National Tactical Officers Association (both including instructors from top local to Federal level special tactical units around the country – a few representatives being LAPD SWAT, LASO SWAT, Miami Beach SWAT – an extremely top notch SWAT unit back then – US Marshall’s advanced tactical units, Dept of Energy NEST Teams, etc., etc. to just name a few). There were also independent military / police tactical oriented courses (H&K’s MP5 Operator and Instructor Courses, advanced tactical courses and advanced tactical training instructor courses by – then – SOS Temps, which was Richard Marcinko and former Red Cell and SEAL Team 6 associates, a then Federal program that utilized Special Forces A-Teams (divided into half Teams for each training unit) to provide regional level specialized tactical training oriented toward police tactical units, etc. – to just name a few.

I speak of this simply to give credibility to that of which I am going to address.

In many of these training courses, Lt. Col. Grossman and his works were discussed in depth.

In a couple of these courses, Lt. Col. Grossman was a guest instructor who provided extensive discussion on the material as provided in his books.

And, yes, the “Sheep-Wolves-Sheepdogs” concept was discussed extensively. (And additionally I own and have read, and read many times, both of his books on “killology” – as well as owning and reading many, many similar topic books by other very credible authors.)

But also OTHER elements of his works were discussed (the need for Sheepdogs to develop an insensitivity towards not only violence, but specifically towards the ability to not only accept a much stronger possibility in being violently killed or severely wounded…. but also specifically in developing the mindset to KILL OR SEVERELY INJURE another human being. While striving to maintain the correct ethical mindset (look at the frequency in which soldiers go over the edge and commit atrocities and police officers go rogue and either become Wolves themselves – highly corrupt – and/or brutality personalities… because they have a badge to hide behind and the “Blue Wall” to – very improperly – cover for them.)

Furthermore, he also discussed everything from PTSD to First-Person Shooter Video Games being “Murder Simulators” to the fact that WE are raising generations of children that (due to these video games and extremely severe violence scenes promoted in movies) are too becoming murder machines mentally, emotionally, and psychologically.

While many of these CHILDREN are in fact becoming Wolves (through this “programming”), quite a few even – mistakenly – look at themselves as being (NOT) Sheepdogs. But for what “flock”?

Due to their upbringing (the fore part of the brain which controls judgement and fully develops ethics, morals, etc. does NOT complete its growth until one is (on the average) about 23 years old (Why do you think that the military wants, for its initial recruits, its young soldiers, who are going to make up 95+% of your ground-pounding grunts, young men in that 17 – 21 age group? The average age of the grunt in Vietnam was 19 1/2… my entire enlistment covered from age 17 – 20; I was a cop at 21).

Again a (false) Sheepdog for what flock?

If this hasn’t been accompanied by equally thorough ethical indoctrination,

If there has been biased and discrimination within the direct family, the indirect family, the environment, even within the religion, then WHO are the (perceived) Wolves?

Gays? Muslims? Jews? Niggers? Spics? Honkies? Anglos? Croats? Serbs? Chechens? Gooks? Slopeheads? Americans? Christians?

Any of which (in the vengeance filled warped “logic” that prevails) are – to them, to include now full adults who grew up this way – are the “real Wolves” as they are perceived to threaten one’s “way of life” so it has become a degree of “advanced self defense” in which attacks against, and even elimination of that target group is a Good Thing. And of course if the programmed / conditioned youth (or young adult then, full adult) became an outright Wolf, then of course violence for its own sake is a norm.

(See Lt. Col. Dave Grossman’s Wiki article in general PLUS for reading about what he devotes his life’s work to now, since his retirement from the Army in 1998)

Also, I personally believe that a part of being truly a Sheepdog is to a small extent genetic (20%???) and to a large extent due to particulars of one’s early environment (I was smaller until about 13-14 when I had some major growth spurts and from age 6 until 12 was bullied CONSTANTLY by a particular bully and his 3 year older brother… and ended up despising bullies as the Wolves that they are – and developing a mindset that I wanted my life goal to be that of legally and ethically warring against those Wolves and protecting the Sheep – of which I myself had been (a Sheep) at a very early age…

With of course my Marine experiences being before I matured and became more knowledgeable and came to recognize that WE were the bullies in Southeast Asia and that – as long-term, back then, SecDef MCNamara has repeatedly acknowledged… that it was an unnecessary and manufactured war for political and economic – for the MIC – purposes). Anyway, I feel that naturally being a Sheepdog through reading, contemplating, generic training, etc. is therefore quite slim (10%???). To do so, to make such a change much later in life is something quite hard to do (a major reason why various military entities – especially so as units become more elite – have initial recruit training (and then advanced training) that is so “tough”, so dehumanizing to break down the civilian into a “machine”, is designed to completely dehumanize enemies as “non persons”).

Anyway, many, many, other factors NEED to be calculated into the equation when it comes to that area of self-defense (as in becoming a sheepdog).

I have provided Brett with an extensive “Sheepdog Booklist” that he has indicated possibly using to establish such a book list on this site. Should decisions be made otherwise, I will provide a posting of that list on the last publication of this topic – on the Comments section.

BTW… I very much so like the Comments that I have viewed on this and other sections of “website articles”. for the most part! Clearly participants are for the most part knowledgeable AND gentlemen! I especially liked this comment by “Ron”:

“I think the sheepdog analogy is good as far as it goes. The trouble is that it is tough to predict who will be brave in what situation, and like with investment opportunities, past performance does not guarantee future results.”

That is ABSOLUTELY TRUE. I know that for fact. And something that Lt. Col. Grossman never does (or did) fully address (either its existence OR how that applies to his “Sheepdog Theory”. Please read “Red Badge of Courage” by Stephen Crane (a book heralded by numerous Civil War combat veterans as a book that “told it like it is”… and yet Stephen Crane never spent a moment in combat – Civil War or otherwise… Coincidentally, “KIllology Expert” Lt. Col. Grossman – who wrote a series of highly factual and pertinent books that are about 90% correct / accurate – also never spent one day in combat). Anyway, note the difference the Stephen Crane’s main character in just a few hours – less than 12??? – period!)

121 Matthew May 21, 2013 at 7:28 pm


And yet you ignore the morality issue again.

I agree that most wars are little more than old men tricking young men into killing each other over their prejudices.

BUT, your argument is still ignoring the very basic issue of right and wrong here.

The organization that flew planes into civilian targets is wrong.

Strapping bombs to children is wrong.

Opening fire in a shopping mall, or a school, or bombing a marathon, are ALL wrong.

There may be madmen that see themselves as doing what’s right or holy when they do this. In their minds, they may be right. But that does not make them right. These are the basic precepts of modern civilization. You cannot kill non-aggressors indiscriminately. Especially over opinion.

You are hiding behind the “everyone’s perspective is different” argument to justify your own cowardice. I do not promote war, but if another party wishes myself or those around me harm, I do not care if their perspective says they are right. I will do whatever is in my power to keep them from harming others.

122 Anthony May 22, 2013 at 10:04 pm

Thanks for the article. Grossman’s article has been circulating around the firearms community for a long time so this is not the first time I have heard these terms used but I appreciate your perspective on them.

As someone that carries a firearm almost daily for the protection of self and family, I understand the “sheepdog mentality” in so much as I have decided that I will not be easy prey for “wolves” in our society and I will guard my “flock” (family) from said bad guys should the need arise, but I hope that, like in the animal kingdom, the mere presence causes a bad guy to look for easier targets.

123 Rachel May 23, 2013 at 2:25 pm

This is very unfair to the photographer, who was running toward the the fallen man as he took the photographs. I know there’s this inclination to believe that anyone can run so fast as to cover that much ground in 60 seconds, and that it’s a simple matter to run faster than a speeding subway train, but in fact a subway station platforms are very long – some are a whole city block or more in length. Can you in all fairness blame someone standing so far away they will not reach the fallen man no matter how fast they run? However, it was unethical to run these photographs in the newspapers – the photographer should have given them only to the family members. I blame him on that account, but not for failing to rescue this man. It is reported that there were 18 people on the platform – were they all just a few feet away, or 800 feet away? The latter is fairly typical for NYC subway stations. Naturally they should have been running, but it’s not fair to blame them unless you can prove that they were all within easy distance of the fallen man. And for those bystanders who could reach the man in the 60 seconds before the train killed him – shame on them. They might have helped him without endangering themselves in any way – just by lifting him, one on each arm. But for people who were more than 100 feet away – let’s not be so hard on them. For all we know they were running like hell, just not faster than the train itself.

124 PEDRO May 25, 2013 at 4:08 am

I think my favorite quote fits perfectly here..” All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ”
-Edmund Burke

“Large and protective, the mere presence of a LGD in a herd can deter would-be predators, and those that dare to venture closer often turn tail when the dog simply demonstrates its aggression through barking and intimidation”

There’s been lots of times where I’ve “merely” made my presence known…. to make a “loud” guy STFU.. and by “known” I mean calmly walking in a room and looking at a guy :)

125 Dr Jan May 28, 2013 at 11:44 pm

What is the remedy for a ‘Sheepdog’ with a broken moral compass? What abut the Police who think they are above the law, or who do ‘favours’ or intimidate for their ‘buddies’? How do you stop a renegade Sheepdog who enjoys the power of being violent? What about the Police officers who know the rules and how to avoid getting caught when he/she goes so far over the edge that they break in to homes to steal the proof witnesses who dare to speak up have recorded?

What do you do when Internal Affairs tells you – sometimes the bad guys get away… ?

What then?

126 Chris C May 29, 2013 at 11:39 am

Here is a very difficult problem. Soldiers, police, ATF, TSA you name it, like to think of themselves as “sheepdogs.” This makes them feel better. Unfortunately, many (could I say “most”?) of these people are simply sheep going along with their crowd and being told what to do by either a wolf or a sheepdog what to do. Too many of us (and them) view what we (they) are doing as righteous, when in fact what we (they) are doing is simply “our herd” vs. “their herd.” I must admit that I have never read Grossman’s book. However, I have seen it used by a General, while I was in the AF, to justify force and violence. That is what troubles me.

127 Eddie May 30, 2013 at 4:29 am

“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” George Orwell

As I am patrolling the streets of my community leading 8 other like minded and trained individuals I remind them that we are expected to honor our oath. To stand between the violent and those who can’t or won’t do so even on their or their’s own behalf. The vast majority of those in my church abhor violence and do not understand my carrying in church. These same people want to know what plans I have made should violence were to pay a visit some Sunday morning in protection of them. They have faith and expection that I and one other will be there to provide protection of them or die in the effort. I do have tactical plans and would risk myself for them.

I desire not to “govern” them. I simply view this as my service to them and to you all as well. There are many parallels to the analogy and most attuned police officers could relate anecdotal evidence to validate it. Being cussed at during a traffic stop and 2 hours later clear a house of a potential home invasion owned by that same person who called 911 to come and “save” them.

As for the born vs trained…I am not convinced. I have trained my sons since they could walk and one is the “sheepdog” for all people and the other would for his wife and relatives, but may shy away from those not personally known. My squad is always training for that moment where those who can’t or won’t commit violence on behalf of themselves or those around them. Willing to walk/run where some of you fear to tread and won’t go. There is the difference, I too fear these same places, but go willingly anyway prepared to visit violence on what inhabits those places.

128 Alex June 1, 2013 at 7:17 pm

I am a Brit so I apologise for any ignorant comments I may make but I wanted to comment of both the article and some of the comments I have read.

I am ex British Army and served in the Brigade Reconnaissance Force (a similar role to the USMC Force Recon) in Afghanistan. I have seen first hand how people react differently to various situations out there. What I didn’t expect was how people who appeared to be the best soldiers at home on the training areas could freeze as easily as the ones who hadn’t seemed as proficient if something caught them off guard. We were a tier 2 SF unit so your not talking about fresh out of training young guys. Most us where on our 2nd, 3rd or 4th tour and vets of Iraq and I even saw a couple of those guys freeze up to some degree if something didn’t happen as “its supposed to”.

Personally I don’t believe training is the be all and end all, sure it helps MASSIVELY, but I really do think its either in you or its not. This article says ‘sheepdogs’ make the herd feel safe at their mere presence in a room. I can tell you now, the guys I saw do the bravest of things weren’t always the biggest guys.

What I don’t get though is the mentality you seem to have over there (in the US) that you feel the need to carry a firearm. Granted there are bad guys out there with guns but I can almost guarantee that 90% of people trained to use a weapon to a civilian standard, i.e. Its not their job and have it drilled into them day in day out, will freeze in a situation where they are getting fired at. If guys can freeze after 10+ years experience because something was out of the ordinary (remember “ordinary” in this quite long comment is getting shot at on a daily basis) then someone who has been to the ranges a few times will more than likely do it too.

Don’t get me wrong, im not saying they are cowards or anything, at the end of the day you could be taking a persons life, bad person or not, that’s what your doing, so therefore I don’t think your average bloke carrying a weapon could do it even if they wanted to.

To me a sheepdog is the teacher who shielded her kids at the school shooting, not the civilians who look for trouble carrying a glock.

129 Alice June 1, 2013 at 9:36 pm

Wolves are leaders. Wolves are caring. Wolves are family oriented. Wolves are loving. Wolves are Kind. Wolves are animals that have been demonized for centuries. They could soon become extinct due to the ignorance of people such as ranchers and government officials.

130 bob June 2, 2013 at 3:44 pm

sheep, wolf, and sheep dog. Those are nice but who plays the role of Shepard? I would rather be a Shepard of three.

131 Will June 3, 2013 at 10:44 am

This narrative on Wolves highlight how a lot of this simplifying of concepts is so dangerous. Wolves are not “evil” even in an analogous sense. They are familial and pack oriented, they don’t do anything different than any other predatory animal. They hunt to feed themselves and their pack, they are not prone to violence, and they nurture and raise their young, and in many cases mate for life. I am not sure why people keep throwing in the “be careful not to become a wolf” into the mix. There is nothing wrong with wolves even in the context of this analogy.

The crux of the issue is oversimplification. I grew up on “cowboys and indians” violent role playing. Running around the neighborhood “killing” each other in “war game” type neighborhood fun. Yet not ONE of my friends or myself ended up as violent individuals. In fact, we’re all pretty passive now.

A lot of the discussions I am seeing in the comments section is taking a rather small, and limited view as to what makes a person one way or another. Not ONE person is a “Sheepdog” or a “Sheep” or “Wolf” all the time. We are ALL those things, and SOMETIMES we are one of those depending on the context and scenario. To say that some people are sheep and some people are sheepdogs is just simplistic and absurd.

132 Brent June 4, 2013 at 12:18 pm

@Alex and @ Master Hahn
This is crazy long. Sorry about that.
You make a good point, both of you. Which is why I was glad the author of this article made the point that Sheepdogs aren’t defined by life and death situations alone, but also by moral ones.

There is more than one breed of wolf. Some push shove and punch others, some even kill them. But some simply abuse others by more subtle means. It can range from a boss that takes advantage of his employees by denying them a tip, or showing favoritism, or even a friend who doesn’t treat their kids right. Sometimes it can be even more horrible things, even if there is no threat of death or (physical) injury.

I think that most people are physically unwilling to take the risk of being a sheepdog, but many don’t even want to speak up or “rock the boat.” Some lack the qualifications to be a (for lack of a better term) “physical” (life or death situation) sheepdog because, as Hahn touched on, being so means actively engendering in oneself a mindset that is accepting of the idea of A) being injured or even killed or B) injuring, permanently hurting, and even ending the life of another human being- someone’s baby boy or baby girl. This is a mindset that one should be very wary of, and there is cause to fear it- especially the acceptance of violence against another person. Personally, I consider it a good thing to (in a limited manner, as a private citizen) encourage in oneself, as those wolves are out there whether you prepare or not. For some people, this just isn’t an option: accepting these possibilities means changing who they are, and they don’t want to do that. They like who they are. Dangerous for their person, perhaps, but that’s their choice (not that the author said otherwise), their priority.

What is sad (to me) is when people are not a sheepdog in any way.

This brings me to Alex’s point: You don’t need a gun to be a sheepdog (also, for it to be of any good you need to engender the mindsets mentioned above). Myself, I have a concealed carry permit and carry regularly (but not always, I am fearful of it giving me a false sense of security), so I get it, and I respect it. But it is the least-used (maybe least-useful?) kind of sheepdog to be.

You can be a sheepdog every day, just by standing up for what is right (a dubious term, lots of definitions, and you can’t just use yours). If you see a crime happen, and you can’t really stop it, report it. I remember a time I was a sheep: I saw this guy slip a big can of beer into his coat. He saw me, I saw him. He knew I saw him. I looked away. I regret it. I would never have assaulted him or tackled the guy, holding him for the authorities or anything like that. But I should have told someone, and I normally would. Things like this happen every day, in smaller and larger examples. Maybe someone in your office gets picked on verbally, but you just never stand up for them. Stand up! Say something! Often a small challenge is enough to check this kind of behavior.

This also extends to more dire circumstances, though not life-threatening. I came to understand recently that someone close to me had been abused by their father as a child. She had never said anything (she was a child, no condemnation for not sheepdogging it there), and had never been in a position to do so (needing a home and all, even when I knew her). After a while, things just went back to “normal.” She didn’t want to grow up bitter, or spend her life being angry, so living with it had been her only choice. This is where you can be a sheepdog. Don’t pull out your gun and shout at the man, call the cops immediately. But you can work with the person, and enable them- give them a safe place where they can be free- to finally do something about it.

We didn’t prosecute her father, we may never do so (for reasons I will not explain here). But his family knows, and so do the parents of the kids that spend time around him. And so will any parents whose kids will spend time with him, and so will any church he chooses to attend. You can be a sheepdog, you can do what’s right. You can protect the others from harm, or (and this is key) enable them to do so.

So you don’t have to have a gun to be a sheepdog. Sometimes, you can even help sheep to be a sheepdog too. So speak up, take action, and do what you have to do. I found out later that another family member’s silence partially enabled this person’s father to abuse her. She was a sheep till it was too late, she is still a sheep.

Inaction, verbal or otherwise, can be very dangerous. However you choose to be a sheepdog, take action. You never know what you might be able to stop. Or even prevent.

133 JulioCG June 5, 2013 at 11:17 pm

I have a simple problem with this: it presupposes that the “moral” thing for the people to have done was to risk themselves saving an absolute stranger, with little chance of recompense. That is immoral in my mind. To risk yourself, to possibly die, for a stranger? That is insane and unjust. Should you die, you may leave children behind, you may leave a wife, you may die before your parents (one of the worst things you can do to them, to be sure).
One has only 1 life to give, so one must be very careful who that life goes to. If I die for a stranger, it means I cannot die for my family, for my friends. I am, in a sense, giving away what is rightfully theirs (my life) to someone who I would never notice was gone.
The gentleman who risked all of that and managed to save both the other person and himself was pretty cool, but out of the many who try, how many survive? Sure, if you succeed, you can feel ok about it (unless you realize you put this stranger ahead of your loved ones, after which you may well feel pretty ashamed), but what are your chances of success?
In short, be no sheep or sheepdog, but a wolf: an intelligent, loving, protective provider and caregiver for one’s own pack.

P.S. If anyone in the tale is evil, it may well be the shepherd, who doesn’t care about any of the others, but uses them all for profit (even then, the analogy is unfair, but it is not as unfair as calling the wolf “evil.”)

134 JTMoutache June 6, 2013 at 4:55 am

I think you don’t follow through to your reasoning.
We’re all sheeps, for we all live in a certain model of the world, in a certain confort zone.
Policemen, armymen are no different, to use your terms they are sheeps put in a place of sheepdogs. Some act like cowboys, some are just doing their jobs, but all of them live in the confine of a confort zone. Of a belief of what is to happen the next day. Even if this future is vioelnce or wound or death, they are trained to believe it’s somehow OK to live this way.

Doing the right thing, ACT. Is not about your place in society, your work, it’s not about being a sheepdog.. If a policemen don’t save the guy on the rail, or if a doctor doesnt stop to do CPR, they both loose their jobs, this is their job, their confort zone. Even if this confort zone does permit to sustain society.

Doing the right thing, being a true and strong human being, It’s about to ability, the courage to act outside your confort zone because of what you believe.
TThis once, something you were not trained or prepare to do, but you know it’s right, and you seize the courage to do it. That’s what being a strong individual is.

People wanting to become a sheepdog are just people in need of attention.

135 Jon June 6, 2013 at 7:59 pm

Every mature husband and father should inoculate himself to the natural, human resistance to the idea and practice of killing, and embody the sheepdog paradigm. It is part of his primal role as a man.

If you’re not prepared to defend the castle (even if it means taking the life of the assailant) you should have never moved into it.

An excerpt from Grossman’s book on combat:

His book *On Killing* is another excellent read.

136 M. DaMone June 13, 2013 at 12:11 am

Definitely made, not born in many cases.

I can relate. As a young child, I was passive, introverted and shy. This, of course, drew the attention of school bullies and during my grade school years I was picked on, beat up and made to feel small.

Fast forward to my adult life, where the psychological reaction has become the opposite almost to a fault. When I see bullying situations, a switch clicks quickly but quietly and I find myself defending – physically without a thought if necessary – sheep from perceived wolves. Afterwards, I have to slow down later to remember my reaction at the time – it is instant, definite, aggressive in defending and violent if needed, with probably not enough regard.

Interestingly, this has translated to animals, too. I have seen a couple instances of animal abuse and my reaction to the abuser has been abrupt, physical and purposeful – so far always shocking the perceived abuser. I have to think about my reaction later as I didn’t think to consider it at the time before taking immediate physical action.

Not good or bad. Certainly the day may come when my automatic reactions to defend those I perceive as sheep would end up getting myself in trouble. I’m not sure I have much control and credit my past as a kid as the driver.

Remember that even if someone is an LGD, it may be in spite of their own best judgement and result in action with little prior thought. I imagine many LGD’s are as unwilling participants in situations as the sheep they are trying to protect. Something else in their wiring drives them, though – often into situations that pose risk to the LGD that from the outside would seem foolish to take on.

137 Henry July 16, 2013 at 8:28 pm

Interesting discussion. Too bad some feel it necessary to bolster their argument by submitting their resume. That is unnecessary. Sheepdog is a state of mind and a philosophy to live by and practice. In other words a choice. You make that choice in private with yourself and then live it. You will know when to step up or step in as the incident reveals itself. If you have been tested then you know who you are and you know want you are willing to do. The sheepdog knows and is vigilant and is quietly so as not to disturb the sheep, because when they know, they are fearful of such intrusions, but also the wolf does not know so they are not prepared for the threat the sheepdog brings to the encounter.

138 Bluebird August 14, 2013 at 12:49 pm

Nobody mentioned Trayvon Martin and “stand your ground laws”. Was George Zimmerman a sheepdog ?

139 LA August 31, 2013 at 1:53 pm

In response to Post 138: “Nobody mentioned Trayvon Martin and “stand your ground laws”. Was George Zimmerman a sheepdog?”

Short answer: Yes.

Because I can’t tell if this is a genuine question or a snide and snarky remark, I’ll answer as factually as possible: (see part III: If not me, then who?)

George Zimmerman (GZ) had the heart of a protective sheepdog. to quote from early in this article “Being a sheepdog isn’t a matter of birth; it’s a choice – a matter of mental and physical training.” “In order to become a sheepdog, you have to consciously decide to do so and then slowly upgrade your mental, physical, and emotional hardware from Sheep 1.0 to Sheepdog 2.0.”

George Zimmerman made choices to protect his home, his family, his community. If that neighborhood is like most- the herd is so afraid or nonchalant that they would only call 911 if they were personally at risk, or their jewelry was stolen. GZ bought a pistol, trained, and had the gumption to call 911. He stepped up, checked on neighbors, and he called 911 just as he had been instructed by local police who repeat a mantra of “when you see something suspicious call us.” How many people in that entire neighborhood ever called 911 unless they had been burglarized- I’ll bet less than 5%. GZ did, he was a leader, he did uncomfortable things like try to organize neighborhood watch, stand around and wait for police to arrive on many occasions, and while he may not have been a professional, trained, buffed and tough guardian, he was trying. If you only have three choices- He certainly was not a wolf, and he was not a sheep. George Zimmerman: Sheepdog.
(Maybe Sheepdog 1.0) but at least he was not suspended from school for vandalism, had not possessed numerous articles of gold womens jewelry that “was not his” and was not sent to live with his biological dad for being out of control. GZ was also not out buying the ingredients for “lean” (a rap style drug made with cough syrup, Arizona Watermelon Juice Cooler and Skittles), nor did he make any disparaging remarks about anyone, Cracka’s or otherwise. He called the Police.
George Zimmerman, in sheep dog vocabulary- barked to get help.

140 TheAnthem October 16, 2013 at 7:18 am

Great topic, and many considerations to be made. This topic is so vast that it requires several books (at least two) to properly address. Sorry if this is a bit long.

We’re all actually are born with the capability to be sheep, sheepdogs, or/and wolves. We see this truth in that where a person lives, regarding each of these, most of the time will often depend on the person’s upbringing and beliefs. For example, once in Seattle, the suicide capital of America, a girl was at a bridge on a highway ready to jump. The ambulance and authorities who gathered caused a traffic jam on the busy highway. The city responded by chanting, on radio and there on the highway, for this girl to jump so everyone could get about their business. She jumped and died.

Among those encouraging her to jump were sheep, sheepdogs, and wolves; but they all played their role of wolf that day. A hateful person can find themselves, in a moment of someone else’s great need, reaching out to aid, showing the sheepdog side of his nature. Culture plays a big part in which one we’ll see or act out most. I America, there are many reasons that most people will act like sheep. Included here is that in our culture and on TV, the self-centered person, not the caring person, is loved and lauded as the strong or appealing personality. As the saying goes, “GOOD guys finish last.” People want to finish first, so compassion and justice are often negated.

Another reason most act like sheep is the intense program to dull the mind and desensitize the masses of people to violence. Almost every TV show, drama series, and movie includes violence, sexuality, and occult themes. You can throw a rock in any direction and got twenty people who’ve been dulled to violence by the media. Because of this, most will watch like zombies when someone is being harmed or raped. A girl was recently raped and reported to authorities who dismissed her claims as lies… in spite of the fact that TEN other girls reported to these same authorities that they were also raped by the SAME group of boys. Hello. It’s easier to say that those authorities are corrupt than to say that the desensitization of our media and society is working wonders for the real wolves. Whether a person is a sheep, sheepdog, or wolf has less to do with who’s who when culture is involved.

In all people, and in many animals, we see this capability to be any of the three: nice sheep next door neighbor turns out to be a wolf; innocent young sheep mom turns into a sheepdog when her kids are threatened; sheepdog of a man turns into a gentle sheep in the presence of harmless people. Most people, to escape any type of negative attention, prefer to be sheep rather than sheepdogs (even those who are ‘secretly sheepdogs’); but the truth is that though some are naturally softer than others and some harder than others, all sheep have sheepdog in them (and all sheepdogs sheep in them) and can choose to act or not to act when situations call for action. In telling a parable, Jesus, whether God Himself or just a wise Man, pegged the truth right on the noggin: He tells about a beaten man lying on the side of the road; two religious men, supposedly sheepdogs (ie. those who do what is right for others) come by, see him, and walk on. Then a heathen who is a sheep (doesn’t feel a natural responsibility to help or ‘rescue’ others) comes by, sees this man, and his heart goes out to him. He takes the man to get the help he needs and pays for him. Jesus then says that the sheep, ‘the good Samaritan’ who helped the beaten man was the true sheepdog and said to His audience, “Go and do likewise.”

The above story is something that happens around us everyday– sometimes overtly but usually more subtly. For those who wish to hide in the shadows as sheep and think they just don’t have it in them to be sheepdogs, this story, among many others, is evidence that such a notion is false and that everyone, sheep or wolf, has it in himself to be a sheepdog and do what is right. After all, when all the arguments from scientists to Christians and everyone in between are laid out on the table, it isn’t the wolf nature or the sheep nature but the sheepdog in all of us that makes us superior to all other created beings: the ability and capacity to feel with others and do what is right for others (not just for ourselves) IS what makes us human.

141 Doc October 26, 2013 at 10:19 am

The analogy to my mind needs some adjusting..
I see it as Shepard (Gov) Sheep (Voters) Sheepdogs (LEO) Wolfhounds (Army/Navy/Air-force/Marines/FBI/CIA and other alphabet soup agencies)…. Now the sheep have one purpose and that is to provide for the Sheperd, either wool or meat, what happens when the shepherds trains the Sheepdog and Wolfhounds to become Wolves like our current Gov. Screw being a sheep or a sheep dog or a wolf hound…

142 Bob the Eternal Flame December 3, 2013 at 6:38 pm

I honestly feel I’m the wolf. No, I’m not a bully, I’m not a bad guy, and I don’t go out preying on them what’s weaker than me-but when I DO stand up for (my perception of) right, I am almost always demonized.

It does not matter what it is I stand up for-be it Biblical Principal, be it Family Value, or be it the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, I am always viewed as an outsider, an outlier, and a paranoid “tinfoil-hat-wearing-****.”

To me, that makes me a wolf in their eyes, much like many sheep would view the sheepdog as a wolf. Does that mean that I am going to hurt people? Not at all. I do my deadlevel best to protect them what’s around me-even if I don’t know ‘em.

That don’t make a sheepdog, though.

I don’t know I’ll EVER be a sheepdog. Or even a LGD.

I’m a wolf.

And I’m fine with that.

143 Megan December 5, 2013 at 5:42 am

The Shepherd is The Lord.

The Sheepdogs are His people (true men or women of God, they will have The Holy Spirit which gives them the ears to hear, eyes to see and the bite to protect.

Sheep are the innocent, naive or blind.

The wolves are the wicked. – false prophets, new world order, deceiving, cunning, charming, charismatic, knowledge of darkness, narcissistic. They are the wolves, in sheeps clothing. Often fooling the sheepdog, who lacks the eyes and ears to see.

Thats my view in it, I could be wrong. I loved the article, awesome job.

- Megan C.

144 Misterselmo February 12, 2014 at 11:59 am

What is a dog but a little wolf? Sheep consume the grass, but the wolves consume the sheep. You either live peacefully and take what the world offers, or you feed off of those who do. The “sheep dog” is just a wolf that betrays its own kind to be even closer to the flock it feeds on. The wolf produces death, the sheep produces life. There is no continuum. I am the quick fox, chased by everything under the sun but rarely caught… hidden in plain sight. Nobody knows my comings and goings, so I watch the world go by from atop a hill and disappear without anyone knowing I was ever really there.

145 Michael Kullik March 27, 2014 at 7:26 am

There has been a huge discussion on this.
There are good people. There are people that harm others. There are people that stand back and do nothing. There are people that do some things but not others.

The point is there are many different types of people, and living your life in ways of integrity and honor with a loving kind way kinda is a good thing to do. But trying to get everyone to this point would be hard. There is not easy answer. And those that do not see it your way may never see it. I will never understand how somone can hurt or kill someone and think nothing of it. That is not who I am. I am a man of my word, who loves others, and would never hurt others for my own gain.

146 Tyler Harding March 29, 2014 at 8:04 pm

This article can be taken from many different viewpoints none being wrong or right… But for me I like this article and encourage others like myself to read it and began to think outside the box we never know how we are going to react when the shit hits the fan, but we can do our best to prepare ourselves for that time this article helps to enlighten the courageous side of us that lacks the inspiration to come out… Any decent man or woman with morals and truly puts others above themselves will react with a sheepdog response it is unfortunate to come to the realization that very few put others above themselves which is why the sheepdog mentality if thats how you want to put it is so rare…. and well said to megan c I like how you put the chrisitian viewpoint on it

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