Manly Honor: Part III — The Victorian Era and the Development of the Stoic-Christian Code of Honor

by Brett & Kate McKay on November 6, 2012 · 53 comments

in A Man's Life, On Manhood

Welcome back to our series on manly honor. Now, I originally planned for the history of honor to be one post, and then decided I could cover it in two, and now I’m thinking it’s going to take five posts, counting the one two weeks ago and today’s. Who was I kidding? The topic of manly honor is both far more complicated and much more fascinating than I had anticipated.

Now brace yourself – today’s post is a doozy. The topic of honor in the Victorian period is the most complex part of a complex evolution, as it involves a myriad of influences and factors. The workload on this one, and the remaining historical installments, necessitated my enlisting of Kate’s historical research and writing chops, and together we pored through over 1500 pages of research, and took dozens of pages of notes. After two weeks of banging our heads on our desk, throwing things, several near mental breakdowns, and one all-nighter, we have completed this article. All of which is to say, while I pledge my honor that we have done our very best to make everything as accurate as possible, if there are any errors in our historical facts or terminology, we welcome your very kind and gentle corrections in the comments. Also welcome are any encouraging comments. Twil be like manna for the soul.

Okay, let’s get started.

Understanding the Class System in England

At the start of the Victorian era (1830s-1900), English society was highly stratified and hierarchical, and the population fell into three main classes. The idea of classes is hard for us to fully grasp from our modern viewpoint. We often think of them as having to do entirely with income level, and while that was certainly a factor, it also depended on values, education, occupation, family connections and history, birth, as well as your manners, speech, and clothing.

At the top of the heap was the landed aristocracy (meaning land ownership was part of their noble privilege). This “peerage” held titles of nobility and largely descended from the warrior nobility of the Middle Ages who had successfully battled for fiefdoms and then defended those territories from would-be usurpers. They owned land, but rented it to others to work. Right below the peerage was the gentry. Because of the system of primogeniture, only the first born sons inherited a title. Younger sons belonged to the gentry, and though they lacked a title, they were still considered nobility, and true “gentlemen.” Whether titled or not, one of the defining qualities of the upper class was that they did not have to work, nor taint themselves with the commonness of trade to earn a living; their income came wholly from owning and renting out land.

The middle class consisted of those who performed “clean,” salaried work. The most distinguished of the middle class were clergymen, military officers, lawyers, doctors, and the professors and headmasters of prestigious schools. Farmers who rented a large piece of land but had others do most of the physical work for them were considered middle class too. Clerical workers were included but considered lower on the middle class totem pole. Manufacturers, merchants, and bankers were some of the newer members of the middle class (more on this below), and as white-collar work expanded, the new journalists, police officers, and insurance agents joined the ranks as well.

The working class consisted of those who did any of the “dirty,” physical work that remained.

For centuries, people had generally accepted the class system and their place in the hierarchy. Each class had its own rules, standards, culture, and even terminology. It was considered unthinkable to ape the class above or below you – you had to follow the rules of your own class.

The middle class had only recently emerged. Prior, there had generally been two classes: those who owned land were the noble – everybody else, ignoble. As we’ll discuss more in the next post, there are different types of honor in every class, but the landed aristocracy laid exclusive right to the term. Commoners were decidedly outside their honor group, and contrary to the system of honor that had existed in primitive times, they could not earn their way into it through adherence to the group’s honor code. Instead, honor had now become inheritable – passed down to the aristocracy’s sons. An aristocrat who displayed bad manners or behavior with members of his own class could theoretically lose the title of gentleman, but the distinction was largely the product of birth.

The rise of the middle class during the Victorian period created a social fluidity that would challenge this system, and necessitate the creation of a new honor culture that transcended all classes.

The Rise of the Middle Class and the Expansion of Honor

At the beginning of the 19th century, the Industrial Revolution was in full swing. The rise of industry powered sweeping changes in the technological, sociological, and economic landscape of the West.

When 18-year-old Queen Victoria ascended to the British throne in 1837, very few of her subjects had traveled more than 10 miles from the rural spot in which they were born, goods and messages could only travel as fast as a horse could carry them, and only half of English citizens could read and write.

When Victoria died in 1901, the pace and texture of life had dramatically transformed. 80% of English citizens now lived in towns and cities, and some of their homes were outfitted with electric lights, had cabinets stocked with canned foods, and sat on gaslight-dotted streets. Telegraphs carried messages in a blink, railroad tracks criss-crossed the land, and luxurious steamships fairly whisked passengers from England to America in only nine days. A man could now write a letter on his typewriter, get his portrait taken by the local photographer, have an x-ray, vaccination, or chloroform administered by his doctor, and shave with a safety razor at home instead of visiting the barber to have his whiskers trimmed. Education for the young had become compulsory, and literacy soared to nearly 100%.

The most important change of the 19th century, however, was the rise of the middle class. The Industrial Revolution not only created manufacturing work, but a booming expansion in trade and banking, along with a whole new stratum of white-collar jobs.

While England’s economic center of gravity was shifting away from agricultural and towards industrial capitalism, and while many of the nascent middle-class were earning incomes greater than those who owned acreage, the status and political power of the new rich in manufacturing, business, and finance did not keep pace with their rising contribution to the nation’s wealth. The aristocracy, a centuries-old honor group that had ever been hostile to incursions from outsiders, vehemently fought against the relinquishing of their position. But the middle-class would force them to give way, not simply by attaining wealth and fighting for a voice in government, but by creating a new honor code – one that was open to all, regardless of class — a code based on ethics and virtues that would come to supplant the one based on birth.

What Were the Tenets of the Stoic-Christian Code of Honor?

The code of honor that developed from the middle-class of the Victorian age was truly an amalgam of several influences:

Rebellion against the values of the aristocracy. Many felt that during England’s Regency era (roughly 1795 to 1837), the upper classes had grown decadent, reveling in flamboyance and dandyism, and focusing too much attention on appearance and clothes. It seemed, to some Victorians, to have been a period in which materialism had sapped society’s spirituality – the rich walked around in fine attire, but were rotten to the core. Victorians reacted against this with a movement towards sobriety and rectitude.

The middle-class also had disdain for the way the aristocracy held up idleness as a virtue, and looked down upon those who worked for a living. The rising business class turned that idea on its head — arguing that idleness was a vice, while work was a nearly sacred virtue.

Revival in evangelical Christianity. Evangelical Christianity moved away from traditional Calvinist beliefs in total depravity (humans are essentially rotten sinners) and predestination, and instead emphasized a person’s free will, and that salvation was open to any who chose to believe and cultivated an inner faith. At the same time, evangelical Protestants preached that a continued relationship with God was predicated on living righteously, and that believers should strive for an individual moral perfection, while also working to purify society, reform corrupt practices, and uplift the downtrodden.

Nostalgia. The Victorians, like the folks of the Renaissance, were at the same time progressive and forward-looking, and nostalgic – they looked to past societies for inspiration on how to improve their own. From the medieval period, they drew from the ideals of chivalry (or at least the folklore of chivalry that had been passed down). From Ancient Greece, they adopted parts of Stoic philosophy.

Expanding Democracy. For centuries, the landed nobility had constituted a near iron-clad oligarchy — controlling Parliament, and the culture as well. But during the Victorian Era, those in the middle class pushed back against the idea that the right to vote and to hold government office were reserved for the owners of major acreage. Reform bills during this period expanded the franchise to millions more men, creating a greater sense of egalitarianism and fostering the idea that gentility, and the title of “gentleman,” could transcend class.

The Rise of the Self-Made Man. As previously mentioned, for centuries people largely accepted being a member of the class they were born into, and there was almost no chance of moving up into a higher class – a commoner couldn’t work his way into the aristocracy no matter how hard he tried. The shift from agriculture to industry opened the possibility (no matter how long the odds were in reality) of social mobility, or what the English called “removable inequality.” High status in society could be earned, but only if a man cultivated the skills and character traits necessary to rise in an industrial economy.

If you put all these influences in a pot, and mix them together, what you come up with is the tenets of the Victorian honor code or what Bertram Wyatt-Brown terms “Stoic-Christian honor,” and what Victorians often used interchangeably with “respectability.” The expanding democratic spirit had inspired a code based on merit over birth, and each of the other influences imparted several qualities to the standards that comprised this new honor code.

The reaction against the perceived excess of the aristocracy resulted in a push for the “reformation of manners,” and new rules for proper behavior and decorum as it concerned things like dress and conversation. Sincerity and earnestness were prized; vanity, frivolity, and foppishness spurned. The evangelical movement stressed the importance of morality, particularly chastity, piety, and charity for others. Nostalgia for the idealized chivalry of medieval knights inspired respect for women, while adherence to ancient Stoic philosophy put a premium on self-sufficiency, self-control, and unflappable reserve – the famous British “stiff upper lip.” Most of all, the Victorian code of honor emphasized the virtues connected with economic success – those that could help working and middle class men rise in the world: initiative, pluck, ingenuity, independence and personal responsibility (going into debt was shameful), ambition, thrift, punctuality, orderliness, cleanliness, patience, dependability, and most of all hard work.

What Were the Practical Functions of the Stoic-Christian Honor Code?

In a minute we’ll get to the overarching purpose behind the creation of the Stoic-Christian honor code, but let’s talk first about a few of its more practical functions:

The Victorian honor code helped create structure in a rapidly changing society.

With the rise of industry, the population shifted from rural areas to cities. Cities bred anonymity – gone were the face-to-face interactions between kin that were essential to the enforcement of public, primal honor. How should strangers interact, and how would people’s behavior be checked and public reputations be maintained in a society full of impersonal relationships?

The Victorian honor code addressed these concerns by making adherence to the rules of manners and etiquette part of the standard of respectability. Manners were designed to foster decorum, but they also eased the interactions between strangers. Each party knew how to behave and what was expected of them in various situations. And adherence to the code of conduct was a way to build your public reputation for honor; good manners were easily observable markers by which others could judge you, and were seen as outward manifestations of the inner virtues of self-control, courtesy, and respect.

You couldn’t remain entirely anonymous even in large cities. A reputation for bad manners, immorality or lax character, or a poor work ethic at your employer would slam shut the doors of both society and business; when meeting a new social or business contact, you had to present letters of recommendation and introduction from others who could vouch for your character. The reputation you earned in one place could follow you wherever you went.

The Victorian honor code created new standards for emerging professions.

Part of the reasoning behind what had been the landed aristocracy’s exclusive control of politics and culture, was the idea that because they didn’t work for a living, they would be able to serve society with a value highly prized during this period: disinterest. Since they didn’t care about money, the thinking went, the landed aristocracy could be morally and intellectually independent, and would do the right thing regardless of circumstances – always putting community needs over self-interest.

But as brand new professions emerged, traditional professions greatly expanded, and the middle-class gained in political power and cultural influence, the question arose of how to ensure that professionals acted with that same disinterested ideal. In response, professional codes of ethics were developed, shaped by the principles of the Victorian honor code; that is, the members of the professions should place virtues like honesty, accountability, and respect above self-interest. While it may be hard to believe, in the absence of many legal restraints, the standard of business morality was quite high, and despite the inevitable swindles of a few scoundrels and cheats, the honor system kept corruption largely in check.

The Victorian honor code created a more universal code that helped unify the classes.

Before the 19th century, travel and communication was greatly limited, as was trade, and communities were largely self-contained and self-sufficient. The coming of the railroads collapsed distances and made travel cheaper, and national newspapers and popular entertainments eroded distinct regional customs. But while physical and cultural boundaries were eroding, class distinctions remained. Thus a broader code of honor helped unite the country and create national cohesion. As Richard D. Altick argues, “In a nation riven by economic and social disparities, the widely accepted principles of moral Evangelicalism had a reconciling effect, bringing classes together in what might be called an ethical democracy. Their often abrasive relations were eased by their possession of a common morality.”

The Victorian honor code fostered the use of oaths and the creation of smaller male honor groups.

While the Victorian honor code provided a universal set of standards that could cross geographic boundaries and class lines, and also help men navigate impersonal relationships, the growth of rootless crowds and lonely anonymity spurred men to create smaller honor groups that could replicate the camaraderie and brotherhood of the past. The giving and taking of oaths grew in popularity as a chance to put the Stoic-Christian ideal of making one’s word one’s bond to the test, and to create promises of loyalty between men who were not kin, but had purposely decided to become “brothers.” The perfect example of the way in which these trends combined are the many college fraternities that were created during this time. Initiates had (and still do) swear an oath, which typically contains pledges of loyalty to one’s fraternity brothers and a promise to conduct oneself as a gentleman.

What Was the Overarching Sociological and Philosophical Purpose Behind the Stoic-Christian Honor Code?

All honor codes are created to motivate society’s members towards behavior that the group believes will fulfill its needs and ensure its health, happiness, and security. It accomplishes this by shaming individuals who don’t meet the code’s standards, and rewarding those who do, giving special amounts of praise and privileges to those who don’t just keep the code, but excel it.

In Victorian society, unlike in the primitive honor cultures we have discussed previously, raw survival was no longer the most pressing need. And justice – carried out in primitive times in a reflexive, eye-for-an-eye fashion — was increasingly administered by professional law enforcement and legal systems.

Thus, with those very basic needs taken care of, Victorian society turned to a higher aspiration for their honor code: progress – both moral and material. For the Victorians, the two types of progress went hand in hand. They believed that just as they had used human intelligence to channel the powers of steam and electricity, and had engineered ways to master their physical environment, so too could each individual harness his latent powers in order to master himself. Each man could morally progress as far as he determined to go.

Personal progress and material progress fed each other in a loop. As Altick puts it, “The well-being of society was derived from the spiritual health of its individual members.” In other words, Victorians believed that the more that individuals lived the virtues outlined above, the better and stronger the whole society would become. Conversely, each man who slipped into immorality played a role in sapping the whole nation’s strength (some even considered moral laxity treason during times of war). Men were motivated to follow the code to attain the status of a respectable gentleman, to avoid being shamed and maintain the opportunities open only to those with an honorable reputation. The more he excelled at the code, and the more he cultivated ambition, industry, discipline, and so on, the higher a gentleman rose in the ranks of society and the more status he gained. And the more men strove for status, the greater the economic and technological progress society experienced as a whole. Just as in the primitive tribe, but now with a new set of traits, what was good for the individual man was good for the group as a whole.

Was Stoic-Christian Honor a Public or Private Honor?

In the previous posts in this series, we talked about how the decline in traditional honor is rooted in its shift from being external and public to inner and private in nature. Traditional honor was based solely on your having a reputation worthy of respect and admiration in a group of equal peers, while inner honor is judged only by the man (and perhaps God) himself.

Despite Stoic-Christian honor’s addition of many other character traits and moral virtues to the simple primal standards of strength, courage, and mastery (and it was an addition, not a replacement – courage was still part of the honor code for a Victorian man), the Victorian honor code remained largely public in nature. Remember the definition from Julian Pitt-Rivers I shared in the first post: “Honour is the value of a person in his own eyes, but also in the eyes of his society. It is his estimation of his own worth, his claim to pride, but it is also the acknowledgment of that claim, his excellence recognized by society, his right to pride.” While the claim to pride for a Victorian gentleman rested on moral virtues rather than physical prowess, the process was the same for him as it was for primitive man – it began with an inner claim to excellence, but that claim had to then be recognized by one’s peers. You couldn’t act like a scalawag, and say you were a gentleman – no one else would recognize your claim to that title. Others watched and judged your behavior, and middle and upper class men, at least of a little eminence, had a public reputation. A slip in morality or the breaking of decorum could bring public shame, and ostracization from social and professional circles.

Boys in both private and public schools were taught to be gentlemen, and the older boys supervised and checked the behavior of the younger. According to Sally Mitchell, these peer mentors learned “to give orders in a way that would not arouse resentment and to internalize a sense of responsibility.” In the athletic arena, young men dedicated themselves to the concepts of teamwork and “fair play,” and upbraided those who violated the code of sportsmanship.

However, there was a shift to a greater emphasis on one’s personal conscience during the Victorian period. The Victorians simply picked up what the Renaissance thinkers had begun in championing the importance of sincerity — it wasn’t enough to simply act like a good man, you had to actually be a good man deep down. A man who achieved this congruence of outer behavior and inner virtue, adherents to the Stoic-Christian honor code argued, not only earned the approbation of others but enjoyed the satisfaction of a free and clear conscience. A Victorian man needed to get in touch with his conscience more than his predecessors, because increased geographic mobility and travel meant that, unlike his primal brethren, he had a good chance of finding himself outside his honor group and among strangers – or with no supervision at all. For a Victorian gentleman, this was a great test of one’s honor – would you keep your word and maintain your standards when no one was watching? (Contrast this standard with the advice that traditional honor-ist Thomas Jefferson gave to his nephew decades prior to “ask yourself how you would act were all the world looking at you, and act accordingly.”)

The popular adoption of university honor codes during this period perfectly encapsulates the tension between private and public honor for the Victorians. University honor codes celebrated the ideal that simply by giving one’s word of honor, a student could be trusted to do the right thing – academically or otherwise – even when someone wasn’t looking over his shoulder. Yet, at the same time, some of these codes made it a provision of honor that if a student saw a fellow student cheating or otherwise doing something dishonest, he was obligated to turn him in – sometimes even tolerance of a violation was considered a violation itself. We moderns who have entirely lost the concept of public reputation and judgment, have questioned whether turning someone else in is truly honorable (and some students at the time grappled with this question too). I would personally posit that the provision made in some honor codes, such as that of the Brigade of Midshipmen at the United States Naval Academy, which allows the observer of the violation to confront the accused without formally reporting him, aligns with the principles of traditional honor to a greater extent.

Conclusion

Oftentimes, when a modern man thinks about honor, his mind turns to the ideals of honesty and integrity, duels (we’ll get to those next time), university honor codes, “women and children first,” and a well-mannered, Stoic uprightness. What they think of, in other words, is the honor code of the Victorian Era. Stoic-Christian honor is still indelibly imprinted on our cultural consciousness for several reasons. First, the Victorian era represented the birth of the modern mindset, and its honor code developed in response to technological, sociological, and economical factors that are still with us today; the effort to deal the seemingly fast and ever-changing pace of life, the consequences of anonymity, and the pursuit of personal progress and professional goals still resonates with our own sensibilities. Second, the Victorian era represented the last manifestation of honor as a societal culture, not simply as a private concept. Third, many of the ideals of the Stoic-Christian honor code continue to have deep appeal (and often pop up here on AoM), the reasons for which I will discuss in the final post in this series.

Though the Victorian code had much to recommend it, it did not last – stumbling into the 20th century and finally expiring after the First World War. Although the stereotype of ridiculously repressed and prudish Victorians paints far too narrow a view of a much more diverse group, in overzealous hands, the honor code did indeed become priggish and austere – focused only on the don’ts rather than moderation and positive virtues. It was used by some more as a stick of judgment with which to swat others, than a personal yardstick for one’s own behavior. There was enormous pressure to conform to the code, and as the celebration of individualism – of following one’s own convictions and desires — increased in the 20th century, and shame became a negative, the Stoic-Christian honor code would be tossed aside as far too constraining.

Further, despite the (at least marginally) coherent picture we have tried to describe here, the Stoic-Christian honor code was never universally adopted by all men. Born of the middle class, while it had an enormous influence on Western societies that extended both to the upper and lower classes, its penetration to the latter was minimal. For the urban working class, honor still resembled the primal variety, with disputes settled with fists and status based on physical prowess and strength. And even those in the middle and upper classes struggled to reconcile what felt like a very manly urge to be aggressive and rowdy, with the ideal of being a refined and restrained gentleman, who was above such things.

This struggle between competing ideas of manly honor is vividly illuminated against the backdrop of the diverging societies and values of the American North and South. And so that is where we will turn next time. Then we tackle the evolution of honor in the wars of the 20th century, followed by the decline of honor during the countercultural movement and its modern state. I think. Maybe even all this week, so we can actually have time for working on other posts, and showering. Maybe. I assure you that the rest of the posts in this series will be shorter and pithier, so I hope you will continue on with us.

We shall leave you with a piece from a Victorian poet, Robert Nicoll, that couldn’t better sum up his contemporaries’ views of honor:

True Nobility

“I ask not for his lineage,
I ask not for his name;
If manliness be in his heart,
He noble birth may claim.

I care not though of world’s wealth
But slender be his part,
If yes you answer when I ask,
‘Hath he a true-man’s heart?’

I ask not from what land he came,
Nor where his youth was nursed;
If pure the spring, it matters not
The spot from whence it burst.

The palace or the hovel
Where first his life began,
I seek not of; but answer this—
‘Is he an honest man?’

Nay, blush not now; what matters it
Where first he drew his breath?
A manger was the cradle-bed
Of Him of Nazareth.

Be nought, be any, everything,
I care not what you be,
If yes you answer, when I ask
‘Art thou pure, true, and free?”


Manly Honor Series: 

Part I: What is Honor?
Part II: The Decline of Traditional Honor in the West, Ancient Greece to the Romantic Period
Part III: The Victorian Era and the Development of the Stoic-Christian Code of Honor
Part IV: The Gentlemen and the Roughs: The Collision of Two Honor Codes in the American North
Part V: Honor in the American South
Part VI: The Decline of Traditional Honor in the West in the 20th Century
Part VII: How and Why to Revive Manly Honor in the Twenty-First Century
Podcast: The Gentlemen and the Roughs with Dr. Lorien Foote

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Sources:
Daily Life in Victorian England by Sally Mitchell
Victorian People and Ideas by Richard D. Altick
Southern Honor: Ethics and Behavior in the Old South by Bertram Wayatt-Brown
The Gentlemen and the Roughs by Lorien Foote
Honor: A History by James Bowman

{ 53 comments… read them below or add one }

1 LG November 6, 2012 at 6:04 pm

As a Calvinist, I have to call you on your characterization of Calvinism, friend! :)

Total depravity means that everything in the world, including us, is tainted. It doesn’t mean we are as bad as we could be, or that we’re just rotten and never virtuous — just that even our virtue is stained with selfishness and pride. And every single Calvinist in history believes that salvation is open to everyone who desires it. We just believe that humans don’t naturally desire it, and that we need God to give us the kind of will that desires salvation. The theological development that you’re referring to was away from that historical understanding of salvation to one where God made everyone equally able to be saved, but then the actual saving part — whether or not they accepted the message of Christianity — was completely up to the persuasiveness of the preacher, their emotional state, etc. So instead of dead people needing resurrection, you had live people needing persuasion one way or another. Dig?

Just don’t want to see my brothers thrown under the bus! :)

2 mihai November 6, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Brett, you’re brilliant. Thanks.

3 Ash November 6, 2012 at 7:39 pm

Brilliant article! Can’t wait for the last two.

4 Matthew Jackson November 6, 2012 at 8:44 pm

Interesting article! But, as a proponent of Reformed Theology my only contention would be with what you said about the concept of “total depravity” as it pertains to Calvinism. The concept of “total depravity” is often misunderstood and more often misrepresented. Rather than humans being “rotten sinners” it contends that humans are born into sin, and unless they become saved will continue in a life of sin until death. That is not to say, however, that no human is capable of doing good (because we obviously are capable of that), but more or less that man can do nothing to save himself.

Just had to get that off my chest :)

5 Brad George November 7, 2012 at 1:24 am

As an atheist I always find it a challenge when people establish their historical link to value systems based on organised religion. As a caucasian man it would be easy to accept christianity as the source of my code of honour. As a man of the world though I’m pretty sure that Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus (ie the majority of the world’s religious folk) would be surprised to find that Stoic Christian values from Anglo Saxons burning fossil fuels were the source of a manly mans honour code. I sum it up simply, just as man created imaginary higher beings to justify the thoughts he had in his head ie his consciousness, he created, invested in and lived his self imposed rules. With of without religion honour codes exist and can be followed. Unfortunately with organised religion such codes are used to justify stoning women to death (Pakistan), killing jews (Nazi’s), killing blacks (KKK). Honour comes from self awareness and is a minute by minute choice that men make.

6 Mark November 7, 2012 at 6:06 am

Excellent post Brett,
I struggle with this in my current life. I try very hard to live with honor. I am in the US military. I constantly see service members not live up to the honor code and not get reprimanded for their actions. Yet, I am still held to those standards that others constantly break. Do I give in to the dark side or do I continue on the righteous path? We all know the answer but it still is very frustrating to live life constantly challenged.

7 Pete King November 7, 2012 at 6:19 am

Great article, and great comments! Thanks guys!

8 trevor artingstoll November 7, 2012 at 8:12 am

As an English academic I tend to be suspicious of American scholarship but I found this monograph insightful and well written. Congratulations. It was worth going unshowered and sleepless for

9 John French November 7, 2012 at 8:23 am

Bret, Simply stated… this website is one of the best reads i have encountered. By reading you,i am catching up on all the lessons of life i would not listen or observe as a boy.
Thank you!
John

10 Jeremy November 7, 2012 at 9:36 am

As a Christian man, I always find it interesting that whenever someone names themselves as an atheist, invariably comments about “invented” or “imaginary” higher beings are a part of their discourse.

I believe that the previous poster could have gotten their point across without the backhanded slap to those people who profess a faith. Unless you have absolute proof that higher beings do NOT exist, then in reality, all you’re doing is being insulting and detracting from the conversation, overall.

11 Jeremy November 7, 2012 at 9:37 am

On the subject of the article – Brett, your articles always make me think and reconsider my position in life. For that, I am grateful and I thank you.

12 Josh Boldt November 7, 2012 at 9:50 am

I hope you consider turning this series into a book (e-book maybe?). I think it’s worthy of it.

13 Mato Tope November 7, 2012 at 10:22 am

A very well crafted and meticulously researched post. It really opens one up to a bigger view of the industrial revolution and the way human beings adapted to living together in densely populated cities by modifying their standards of behaviour and moral codes.
As well as explaining the the evolution of honour throughout the great social upheavals of that time it offers a different perspective on the amazing capacity mankind has to reinvent himself and by doing so help reform society as a whole.

Excellent series, Brett and Kate. Keep up the good work.

14 J D November 7, 2012 at 10:27 am

@brad george, The nazis actually despised Christianity as a religion for weaklings and were essentially atheists. They believed in the triumph of the will. The issues around the KKK are far more complicated than that. In part the KKK was, apart from a few chapters, a lower class reaction. Historically they hated middle and upper class Southern whites as much as blacks. There were many whose sense of honor led them to take certain stands in regards to civil rights or at least to take a higher road in their behavior. The pakistan situation is apples and oranges. I am not accusing you personally with what I am about to say, but I can think of atheists who have rejected Christian values/honr values precisely because those values cause them to treat with respect “the weak, the vulnerable, those with needs.”

15 Gui November 7, 2012 at 10:39 am

To LG and Matthew Jackson:

Reading through the article it becomes clear that the principles that serve as base to the cultural codes of behavior (and in this case, honor) are often modified (down played of exaggerated) when they are moved from theory to practice. An instance in the article that I belive signals this the most is the following: “Although the stereotype of ridiculously repressed and prudish Victorians paints far too narrow a view of a much more diverse group, in overzealous hands, the honor code did indeed become priggish and austere – focused only on the don’ts rather than moderation and positive virtues. It was used by some more as a stick of judgment with which to swat others, than a personal yardstick for one’s own behavior”.

The reason behide this, I suppose, is that only few people devote the time and effort to study and understand the moral principles behind cultural norms. Most others simply follow the code imposed by the era’s zeitgeist, and while doing so create distorsions to the original principles whether out of ignorance or ill-intent. From that it should not be such far of a stretch to imagine that the same happened with this concept of “total depravity”. Regardless of its actual theological content, it might have been the case that people culturally (mis)interpreted it to be that “humans are essentially rotten sinners”.

To Brad George:

Why do you relate organized religion with Nazism?

16 Petr November 7, 2012 at 11:02 am

Great job, congratulations.

17 Pete Kadish November 7, 2012 at 11:16 am

Hi Brett!

Bravo on a very well written post. I agree with John French in that you do fill-in many of those lessons which I failed to learn in my youth.

Thanks!
Pete.

18 Jared November 7, 2012 at 11:23 am

Mr. George,
While I respect your opinion and will fight to the death for your right to say it, I must point out a few errors in your statement. The National Socialist Party of Germany (Nazis) were not based on a religious code, but rather a Governmental one. They held that the state was the most important thing and the good of the people as a whole was more important than the good of individuals. In fact, the Hitler Youth meetings in Austria were organized on Sunday mornings to prevent them from attending religious services with their families. It was hatred of religion that led to those atrocities, not the following of it.

I also fail to see how “burning fossil fuels” plays into the discussion in the least. I also believe that this writing is taken in the context of Western Civilization. If so, then a “manly man’s code of Honor” most certainly came from European origins. However, I feel that your implication of Anglo-Saxons unfairly leaves out the Normans, Franks, Jutes, Gales, Celtic, and various other peoples that eventually formed Victorian England.

I will concur; however, that honor is a “minute by minute choice.”

19 Brandon November 7, 2012 at 12:52 pm

I was interested by LG’s and Matthew’s comments, and wanted to find out more about Calvinism, because what they were saying didn’t line up with what I’ve heard. But Wikipedia seems to confirm the article too.

“Total depravity is the fallen state of human beings as a result of original sin. The doctrine of total depravity asserts that people are by nature not inclined or even able to love God wholly with heart, mind, and strength, but rather all are inclined by nature to serve their own will and desires and to reject the rule of God. Even religion and philanthropy are wicked to God to the extent that these originate from a human imagination, passion, and will, and are not done to the glory of God. Therefore, in Reformed theology, if God is to save anyone God must predestine, call, or elect individuals to salvation since fallen man does not want to, and is indeed incapable of choosing God.”

I’m not sure you can believe in a doctrine of “TOTAL DEPRAVITY” and say at the same time you don’t believe people are “rotten to the core.” They’re pretty much synonym phrases.

I’ve never understood the appeal of Calvinism and why anyone would choose that faith. It is such a bleak outlook of humans and of God.

Also, as an evangelical Christian, I take issue with LG’s statement that “The theological development that you’re referring to was away from that historical understanding of salvation to one where God made everyone equally able to be saved, but then the actual saving part — whether or not they accepted the message of Christianity — was completely up to the persuasiveness of the preacher, their emotional state, etc.” If you don’t like your faith being thrown under the bus, please don’t throw mine either.

20 Thomas November 7, 2012 at 2:18 pm

As an atheist, I try to understand how people come to their beliefs and conclusions, without being condescending, or needlessly bashing them in the name of my quite popular and widely advocated world view.
After a genuine attempt at understanding the Christian notion of God, I have found that it is very much in line with many, although perhaps unspoken beliefs, which many of us, who proclaim ourselves as atheists may have. It does not take much to realize, that the concept of God is more than that, of an old man, creating the world, and arbitrarily separating the good from the bad; it is an all-concept – for humans, it is at the same time reality in it’s whole, as that, which has created it from nothing (not out of “some nothing”, as the common cosmogonical fallacy, popularly advocated by modern “physicist superstars” would suggest, but not out of anything at all). He is, as far as us humans are able to know Him, with lack of biblical revelation, both the cause and the reason, which allows for the self reflection of res extensa to emerge in form of the human res cogitans – the emergent forming of the mind from the physical foundations of reality – a concept, much deserving of our intellectual indulgence.

21 Conner November 7, 2012 at 3:06 pm

First, this article was an ace in the hole. Really one of the best I’ve seen.

On the Calvinism discussion: Reformed theology presupposed total depravity with being made in the image of God, so while humans are rotten sinners, that’s not all they are. Rather, there is a focus on the immense grace that God bestows in allowing people to come to faith (faith not of works, lest no man should boast, but a gift of God, etc.).

To Brandon’s point about the appeal of Calvinism, the doctrine has a lot to recommend it to Evangelicals. It has a solid focus on the Sovereignty of God, so when we pray that others will come to Him, we actually believe He has a hand in it. Calvinists are traditionally intellectually rigorous in their study, not that other traditions aren’t, but this is one of that things you soon notice if you visit a serious Reformed church. Finally, the way that predestination theoretically works on a personal level is really no different than in the freewill models: You respond to Jesus and call on Him.
Hope that clears things up a bit.

22 Spence November 7, 2012 at 3:37 pm

I have always looked to Romans 3:10-18 and then to Romans 9, specifically verses 10-24 when contemplating the mysteries of election and choice.
I believe that all humans have an innate knowledge of God,and tend to think that God is calling out to anyone who questions His existence or recognizes His handy work whether in themselves, in others, or in nature. This craftsman’s mark is in us and around us.
Perhaps the answer is that no one seeks God on his or her on volition, but when the pull is felt, when He awakens that knowledge, the choices begin.
Perhaps not. Who can know the mind of God?

23 dom November 7, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Does anyone have any recommendations for books on Stoicism?

24 Stefani Walker November 7, 2012 at 9:21 pm

Thank you for this article! I will share with my history-loving friends. I have a few questions. Is this more of a history of England or the U.S.? Or is it considered to be one and the same? Because it seems this happened in the US before Queen Victoria. It seems Americans would have influenced England in this “rebelliousness” to aristocracy while England would have influenced making rules about it. I am also curious if travel to Asia and learning of their culture of personal discipline and codes of honor had any influence, since you mentioned other cultures like the Greeks. Any thoughts? If not, thank you for the information you have already shared.

25 Dave C. November 7, 2012 at 9:48 pm

A well-informed and well-researched article. Thanks for expanding my understanding in this area, and filling in the many holes left by high school history lessons!

26 san November 8, 2012 at 7:07 am

Best. Post. Ever.

27 Gbaney November 8, 2012 at 2:43 pm

Thoroughly enjoyed as always!

28 cagey November 8, 2012 at 4:13 pm

Very insightful – much effort went into putting this article together. Too bad we don’t have a code of honor that persists in the U.S. Why does it seem so few of us profess in such a code?

29 Jas. Stephens November 8, 2012 at 5:31 pm

dom – I would recommend Epictetus’ Discourses as well as Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations and Seneca’s Epistles.

There’s some really good stuff in there, and they can be found in good, inexpensive paperback editions.

30 Christopher November 8, 2012 at 6:31 pm

Extremely interesting post. I commend you for all of your research. I hope to see more article series within the future. I can easily relate to the ideas discussed in the post, as they make up the American culture that I live in, but it leads me to wonder what honor is like in other countries. I think a post on Eastern culture or South American culture and their view on manliness/honor would be enlightening.

31 Reality November 8, 2012 at 11:39 pm

@ J D: Please stop making up things to suit your stance. The German Census of May 1939 shows that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant, 40 percent considered Catholic, only 3.5 percent as neo-Pagan, and 1.5 percent as atheists. There is plenty of evidence to show that atheism was shunned in Nazi Germany. Hell there are even photos of Nazi Officers during Christmas Celebrations, photos of the Catholic Church showing support. Hell, Hitler not only defined himself as a Christian in Mein Kampf, he also fought against Secular Schooling. Why not actually read up. — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

32 dom November 9, 2012 at 12:19 am

Jas.Stephens – thanks. Will be on my next amazon order.

33 Justin November 9, 2012 at 8:48 am

I would like to see a discussion on my favorite concept of honor & manliness; that of pre-christian europe. Here’s something to prime the pump: http://ourtroth.weebly.com/chapter-xxvii-troth-and-the-folk.html

34 mattoomba November 9, 2012 at 10:34 am

Great article, and great series. I’ve been trying to codify my own “code” to pass on to my boys (and daughter!) and hope this series, when completed, helps me out. My biggest issues so far has been (1) trimming the code to only the most essential laws and (2) finding the right words to turn a wordy phrase into a memorable truism.

35 Kevin November 9, 2012 at 11:24 am

This has been the most enjoyable series I’ve read on your site yet. Great work.

36 Stan November 9, 2012 at 10:14 pm

Most of this article’s discussion on Victorian male honor–the historical context, the sociological impacts, the practical functions–reminded me of how Confucianism works in modern China and Korea. Like the Stoic-Christian Code, modern Confucianism is more public than personal in its mechanisms of enforcement. In booming societies they both have persisted to maintain relatively informal expectations of personal morality and achievement, prizing above all a strong work ethic. Confucian codes, however, also have clear and strict roles for women as mothers and are mostly enforced through blood relations. It has been interesting to see how a very old moral/social system has been adapted to dynamic, technologically advanced countries.

37 Roy November 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm

Excellent article, a great read. Looking forward to more.

38 APD148 November 10, 2012 at 7:39 pm

Brett & Kate,

Thank you for your hard work and for bringing such a worthwhile topic to the fore. I’m inclined to think that entirely too many men no longer reflect on what actually constitutes honorable behavior. Having spent the past four decades as a police officer and soldier, I always thought the subject of honor deserved more consideration than it generally got.

Again, thanks!

39 adan November 10, 2012 at 8:39 pm

What a great read. Thank you Brett.

40 Nick November 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm

Very interesting, although I personally find it to be ‘The Victorian Era and the Development of the Stoic-Christian Code of Honor’ viewed through the American rose tinted glasses

41 nestor November 12, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Amen to LG
From one Calvinist to another
Love the article tho!!!!!

42 GP November 13, 2012 at 8:23 am

I am staying in a dormitory here at the University. Thanks to the wi-fi, I was able to read this entry.

As always, your logic, grammar, and rhetoric are commendable, inspiring, and intellectually stimulating. Thank you very much for taking pains in order to finish writing this scholarly article.

43 Brucifer November 14, 2012 at 9:00 pm

Interesting to be reminded of college fraternities being started by the Victorians. Alas today, “fratboys” are mostly synonymous with unmannerly louts and boors … at least on American campuses

44 Saxon November 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm

Very enjoyable series. Looking forward to installment No. IV.

45 Adrian November 21, 2012 at 8:24 am

Look at the Titanic! We all know there weren’t enough lifeboats, and that the 1st class passengers were treated preferentially. Who were most likely to perish?

The highest death rate was for men in second class (92%). Compare that with the rate for women in second class (12%) and men in third class (84%).

These middle class men, with their ideas of honour, were most likely to stand aside and let others take their place on a boat.

PS Class is alive and well in the UK! Whatever our politicians may say.

http://espace.uq.edu.au/eserv/UQ%3A152940/HallSSM2261986.pdf

46 ronnyfm November 29, 2012 at 9:24 pm

Well, glad to see the clarification on Calvinism. Because it never denies the human responsibility, and clearly as Paul to the Thessalonians, hard work and working to have, and better, working to have to share is never dismissed. The other thing, I would not call the abandoning of Calvinism as revival, it is the opposite, revival as the Great Awakening are missing from centuries ago. But great and informative post. AoM without a doubt is one of my preferred sites since like a year ago.

47 Keith December 13, 2012 at 8:28 pm

As an avid reader of this site, I would like to personally thank you both for all of the time and work you put into these posts. I travel far and wide on the internet world and the real world to discover things like this that we do not talk about as a culture anymore. For all that you have done to assist me, in more ways than you can imagine, on my journey can never be repaid (I have your books, so I figured that’s a start!), so for all your time and effort I say Thank You!

48 Jer January 6, 2013 at 4:36 pm

From “Blast From the Past”:

Troy: “You know, I asked him about that. He said, good manners are just a way of showing other people we have respect for them. See, I didn’t know that, I thought it was just a way of acting all superior… I thought a “gentleman” was somebody that owned horses. But it turns out, his short and simple definition of a lady or a gentleman is, someone who always tries to make sure the people around him or her are as comfortable as possible.”
Eve: “Where do you think he got all that information?”
Troy: “From the oddest place – his parents. I mean, I don’t think I got that memo from mine.”

49 Jer January 6, 2013 at 8:29 pm

Brandon, although Wikipedia is undoubtedly a more reliable source of information on Reform theology than, say, Reformed theologians, my favorite of those, R.C. Sproul, agrees with LG in his description of Total Depravity. It is illogical to state that TD means man is as depraved as he can be; after all, even Hitler appreciated art and loved his mother. Rather, a better name for the concept according to Sproul would be Radical Corruption, i.e. that our corruption extends to the root of our nature, While not exhaustive, it is pervasive, affecting every aspect of our lives and making it no more possible for man to seek God without His drawing them than for Lazarus to come out of the tomb prior to Jesus calling him.

50 K.R January 9, 2013 at 4:23 am

Nice work on these Brett and Kate.
The hard work really has paid off in the quality of these articles.

Just to make a little more work for yourselves have you considered flipping this Honor series into Podcasts?
I’m thinking interviews with some of the sources and authors perhaps. I think they’ll be able to give real world examples placing this dense topic in a digestible context. Just a thought. Personally I’ve enjoyed the podcasts you’ve produced thus far and think it’s a great medium to work with the articles on your site.

Keep up the solid work. Cheers.

51 Ryan McDermott February 19, 2013 at 1:11 pm

Great stuff you got here… i love it

52 A Simple Passerby June 9, 2013 at 1:16 am

To this person who labels himself, or herself, ‘reality’. I can assume you did not actually read all of that wikipedia article you posted. And thus to anyone who reads this. Do not take him (or her) seriously. The article does end up stating that, while most of Germany was largely Christian, the Nazi party itself (which originated not from Germany, even if Hitler was German) was strongly opposed to Christianity, hating most of its views. With Nazi leadership in Germany, it is ill founded to claim that Christians were responsible for that event.

To Brett and Kate, this really is an amazing series. As a young man I very much enjoy reading it. It makes full sense to me and is very well thought out and clearly written. Thank you for this. It is not often in this age that you see written works which so aptly describe anything truly admirable.

53 Mrs. Robinson July 14, 2013 at 8:59 pm

Great series, and it opens a topic that’s well past due for a good plowing.

One factoid that intersects all of this in half a dozen interesting ways: According to “Sex In History” by Reay Tanahill, Victorian London had the most pervasive prostitution industry of any culture known to historians — about one prostitute for every 15 men in the city.

Whatever “virtues” these men were being called to, chastity doesn’t appear to have been high among them — no matter how much lip service was being paid to it in the pulpits of the various churches.

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