{"id":81934,"date":"2018-02-06T12:46:16","date_gmt":"2018-02-06T18:46:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=81934"},"modified":"2026-10-06T13:20:11","modified_gmt":"2026-10-06T18:20:11","slug":"12-rules-for-life-jordan-peterson-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/manhood\/12-rules-for-life-jordan-peterson-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #377: 12 Rules for Life With Jordan Peterson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Have you been stuck in a rut for awhile? Have you been there so long that you feel like there\u2019s no use in trying to get out of that slump? Maybe you even start telling yourself, \u201cThings can never get better. This is just the way things are. Is there even a point to all of this?\u201d And as you ruminate over these questions over and over, you feel more and more depressed and maybe even start to feel a bit resentful. Resentful towards others, resentful towards life itself.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Well, my guest <span class=\"s2\">today<\/span> says that perhaps the way you start to get out of that rut is to clean your room, bucko. His name is Jordan B. Peterson, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/articles\/podcast-335-using-power-myths-live-flourishing-life\/\">I\u2019ve had him on the show before<\/a>. Peterson is a psychoanalyst and lecturer, and he\u2019s got a new book out called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0345816021\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0345816021&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=stucosuccess&amp;linkId=FSXA3GZUT5SFDAZ4\"><i>12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos<\/i><\/a>. <span class=\"s2\">Today<\/span> on the show, Dr. Peterson and I discuss why men have been disengaging from work and family and why his YouTube lectures resonate with so many modern men. We then unpack why it\u2019s so easy to get resentful about life, before spending the rest of the conversation discussing rules that can help you navigate away from resentment and towards a life of meaning. Dr. Peterson explains why he thinks a meaningful life isn\u2019t possible without religion or myths, what lobsters can teach us about assertiveness, and why a simple act like cleaning your room can be the stepping stone towards a better life.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Have you been stuck in a rut for awhile? Have you been there so long that you feel like there\u2019s no use in trying to get out of that slump? Maybe you even start telling yourself, \u201cThings can never get better. This is just the way things are. 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