{"id":61533,"date":"2016-12-15T12:40:24","date_gmt":"2016-12-15T18:40:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=61533"},"modified":"2026-10-14T11:02:22","modified_gmt":"2026-10-14T16:02:22","slug":"podcast-261-solitude-friendship-can-make-better-leader","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/leadership\/podcast-261-solitude-friendship-can-make-better-leader\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #261: How Solitude and Friendship Can Make You a Better Leader"},"content":{"rendered":"

There\u2019s a growing feeling amongst Americans that we\u2019re suffering a crisis of leadership in our government, families, and businesses. People seem less independent and autonomous, and more directed by others. What’s behind this lackluster leadership and what’s the solution?<\/p>\n

My guest today argues that the problem has to do with the way we’re bringing up what he calls “excellent sheep,” and that the solution is equal doses of deep solitude and deep friendship. His name is William Deresiewicz and he\u2019s the author of several books and speeches, including A Jane Austen Education<\/a>, Excellent Sheep<\/a>, <\/i>and Solitude and Leadership<\/i>. Today on the show, William and I discuss what most so-called leaders get wrong about leadership and why learning to be alone with your thoughts helps forge better leaders. We discuss the history of friendship, why friends are so hard to make as an adult, and what you can do to form deeper relationships. William and I also talk about how young people can stop being \u201cexcellent sheep,\u201d and jumping through the hoops other people put in front of them in order to start living on their own terms. We cap our conversation with an exploration on why men should give Jane Austen a chance and the life lessons we can get from her novels.<\/p>\n

This is an eclectic, but wisdom-filled podcast. You’re definitely going to hear something you’ll end up mentally chewing on for days to come.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

There\u2019s a growing feeling amongst Americans that we\u2019re suffering a crisis of leadership in our government, families, and businesses. People seem less independent and autonomous, and more directed by others. What’s behind this lackluster leadership and what’s the solution? My guest today argues that the problem has to do with the way we’re bringing up what he 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