{"id":59080,"date":"2016-09-01T13:29:12","date_gmt":"2016-09-01T18:29:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=59080"},"modified":"2026-10-20T11:51:27","modified_gmt":"2026-10-20T16:51:27","slug":"podcast-231-how-the-ghosts-of-tradition-inspired-ancient-military-might","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/culture\/history\/podcast-231-how-the-ghosts-of-tradition-inspired-ancient-military-might\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #231: How the Ghosts of Tradition Inspired Ancient Military Might"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The armies of ancient Greece and Rome have gained legendary status. Both militaries successfully conquered much of the known world in their respective eras.<\/p>\n<p>But what made them so formidable? Technological innovation? Novel strategies? Plain old grit?<\/p>\n<p>My guest today&nbsp;on the podcast argues that it was the Greek and Roman armies&#8217; reverence for their mythic pasts that made them great. His name is J. E. Lendon (he goes by Ted). He\u2019s a classical scholar and the author of&nbsp;<i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B0016Q1VWS\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;btkr=1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=artofmanliness03-20&amp;linkId=c2875f43cbd07ddc9be4ae8a003377ff\">Soldiers and Ghosts: A History of Battle in Classical Antiquity<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Today on the show, Ted and I discuss how the ghosts of the <i>Iliad<\/i> and the <i>Odyssey<\/i> haunted Greek soldiers, the ways in which both the Greeks and Romans ritualized warfare, and why the Ancient Greeks made a competition out of everything. We also discuss the competing virtues of courage and discipline within the Roman army. This is a riveting conversation with fascinating insights into ancient notions of masculinity.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The armies of ancient Greece and Rome have gained legendary status. 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