{"id":194357,"date":"2026-08-04T08:10:31","date_gmt":"2026-08-04T13:10:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=194357"},"modified":"2026-08-04T08:10:31","modified_gmt":"2026-08-04T13:10:31","slug":"podcast-1128-big-p-vs-little-p-purpose-why-you-dont-need-to-find-your-one-true-calling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/self-improvement\/podcast-1128-big-p-vs-little-p-purpose-why-you-dont-need-to-find-your-one-true-calling\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #1,128: Big P vs. Little P Purpose \u2014 Why You Don&#8217;t Need to Find Your One True Calling"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"art19-web-player awp-medium awp-theme-dark-blue\" data-episode-id=\"df2dda71-42af-4ae3-a5cf-54274c8820f0\"><\/div>\n<p>People are told their whole lives how important it is to find their purpose. But many find the search frustrating. They feel there&#8217;s one true calling or one grand goal they&#8217;re supposed to be pursuing, but they can&#8217;t seem to discern what it is.<\/p>\n<p>My guest, Jordan Grumet, author of <a href=\"https:\/\/link.amazon\/B0epYF05w\"><em>The Purpose Code<\/em><\/a>, says that searching for what he calls your big P purpose can be fruitless and even harmful, and that a better path is to embrace a life of little p purposes. Today on the show, Jordan explains the difference between big P and little p purposes and argues that the former can lead to anxiety while embracing the latter can be the path to meaning, satisfaction, connection, and even the legacy you were looking for in the first place. We discuss how Jordan found his way to this philosophy after burning out as a doctor, practical ways to discover your own little p purposes, what he thinks we get wrong in making family our purpose, and what his work in hospice has taught him about living a life without regret.<\/p>\n<h3><b>Connect With Jordan Grumet<\/b><\/h3>\n<div>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/jordangrumet.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/jordangrumet.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785762417774000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2cnW4OODKT8X1Csv2YVWqx\">Jordan&#8217;s website<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/jordangrumet.substack.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/jordangrumet.substack.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785762417774000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1bKrhVI8tCDP8uUqgzZ3nA\">Jordan&#8217;s Substack: The Purpose Cod<b>e<\/b><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-194358\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/08\/713mmgEEwYL._SL1500_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"325\" height=\"502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/08\/713mmgEEwYL._SL1500_.jpg 325w, https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/08\/713mmgEEwYL._SL1500_-320x494.jpg 320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 325px) 100vw, 325px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Listen to the Podcast! 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