{"id":194313,"date":"2026-07-28T08:54:53","date_gmt":"2026-07-28T13:54:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=194313"},"modified":"2026-07-28T08:54:53","modified_gmt":"2026-07-28T13:54:53","slug":"podcast-1127-restless-rooted-what-the-odyssey-reveals-about-americans-divided-souls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/manhood\/podcast-1127-restless-rooted-what-the-odyssey-reveals-about-americans-divided-souls\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #1,127: Restless, Rooted \u2014 What the Odyssey Reveals About Americans&#8217; Divided Souls"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"art19-web-player awp-medium awp-theme-dark-blue\" data-episode-id=\"d56bc9b3-df74-44a5-b571-fd703aab84d9\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>With the release of Christopher Nolan&#8217;s adaptation of the Odyssey, it seems like everyone&#8217;s been talking about a 3,000-year-old epic again. But my guest thinks this ancient tale offers a framework for understanding our modern lives that you probably haven&#8217;t heard before.<\/p>\n<p>Patrick Deneen is a professor of political science and the author of <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4flDTRJ\"><em>American Odyssey<\/em><\/a>. Today on the show, Patrick argues that Odysseus embodies a tension that has defined the human experience, and especially the American experience: we&#8217;re both home-seeking and exploring, rooted and restless. We long to settle down somewhere, yet we&#8217;re equally driven to push beyond the horizon in search of something new. Patrick shares how Alexis de Tocqueville made this observation about our country two centuries ago, how Odysseus navigates the temptation to become both more than human and less than human, and the surprising act Patrick thinks is the most heroic thing Odysseus does. We end our conversation with the idea that having a home can give us the confidence to explore, or as David Brooks put it, &#8220;All of life is a series of daring explorations from a secure base.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h3>Resources Related to the Podcast<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/manhood\/3-lessons-from-homers-odyssey\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/manhood\/3-lessons-from-homers-odyssey\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3P5MRXjwdn089VBHrjIw1o\">AoM Article: 3 Lessons From Homer\u2019s Odyssey<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/manhood\/podcast-337-life-lessons-odyssey\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/manhood\/podcast-337-life-lessons-odyssey\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3AgdG9uBXfB4AA7b5-0itx\">AoM Podcast #337: What Homer\u2019s Odyssey Can Teach Us Today<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4b8rr58\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/amzn.to\/4b8rr58&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw25POAxgD93U8c2GPDzAudG\"><i>Democracy in America<\/i>&nbsp;by Alexis de Tocqueville<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/poems\/45392\/ulysses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/poems\/45392\/ulysses&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1vFWQJQj05NsLabtMFNzUg\">&#8220;Ulysses&#8221; by Alfred, Lord Tennyson<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><b>Connect With Patrick Deneen<\/b><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/politicalscience.nd.edu\/people\/patrick-deneen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/politicalscience.nd.edu\/people\/patrick-deneen\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw37jqzrtl7Ny3lX-g-4JO9d\">Patrick&#8217;s faculty page<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patrickjdeneen.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.patrickjdeneen.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2-5JZ-mDlGhfwS7G3e5ZQ2\">Patrick&#8217;s website<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/creedandculture.com\/books\/american-odyssey\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/creedandculture.com\/books\/american-odyssey\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1785066682233000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0cfzyYjVgOf2uYK5PvRxac\"><i>American Odyssey&#8217;s&nbsp;<\/i>page on Creed and Culture&#8217;s website<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4flDTRJ\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-194314\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/07\/81M2K05H-jL._SL1500_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"325\" height=\"502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/07\/81M2K05H-jL._SL1500_.jpg 325w, https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/07\/81M2K05H-jL._SL1500_-320x494.jpg 320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 325px) 100vw, 325px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Listen to the Podcast! 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