{"id":193389,"date":"2026-04-28T08:39:58","date_gmt":"2026-04-28T13:39:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=193389"},"modified":"2026-04-28T08:39:58","modified_gmt":"2026-04-28T13:39:58","slug":"podcast-1115-a-map-for-finding-direction-and-purpose-in-life-again-and-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/advice\/podcast-1115-a-map-for-finding-direction-and-purpose-in-life-again-and-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #1,115: A Map for Finding Direction and Purpose in Life (Again and Again)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" src=\"https:\/\/art19.com\/shows\/ba3480ca-8308-4ff6-977f-117c165c5a3f\/episodes\/e7142e37-e556-484d-a099-535806d3a436\/embed\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>While we often think of life as linear, my guest\u2019s own life, along with a decade of research, has taught him that it\u2019s anything but. In his latest book, <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/41QwDFT\"><em>What to Make of a Life<\/em><\/a>, Jim Collins unpacks the cyclical pattern life actually unfolds in, and how to navigate it. He explains how we all go through periods of \u201cfog\u201d \u2014 times of disorientation and uncertainty \u2014 at least three times: in youth, after a life-changing \u201ccliff\u201d event, and as we move through midlife into older age. We find our way out of these fogs by what Jim calls coming into \u201cframe\u201d \u2014 aligning what you&#8217;re built to do with what you actually do in a way that feels enlivening and meaningful. And Jim unpacks the three elements that help you find, and re-find, this frame over the course of your life.<\/p>\n<p>Along the way, Jim shares case studies of these principles at work, and we explore the role of luck, the inevitability of drudgery (even in work you love), and how to keep your inner fire lit over the long haul.<\/p>\n<h3>Resources Related to the Podcast<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4u2n4iW\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/amzn.to\/4u2n4iW&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581168000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2sS4K5cbZ7DMmwqQuILbs4\"><i>Good to Great<\/i>&nbsp;by Jim Collins<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3OjYLhz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/amzn.to\/3OjYLhz&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581168000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1J4BAv2nxgkm_xxaALgti_\"><i>All Rise: The Remarkable Journey of Alan Page<\/i>&nbsp;by Bill McGrane<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4e6SvEj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/amzn.to\/4e6SvEj&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581168000&amp;usg=AOvVaw17DtsOG7vXWdTghpyTIYut\"><i>Self-Renewal: The Individual and the Innovative Society<\/i>&nbsp;by John W. Gardner<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dyingbreed.net\/p\/sunday-firesides-you-never-know-how\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.dyingbreed.net\/p\/sunday-firesides-you-never-know-how&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581169000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0a3Ufj_vEj9-p4gFq3nEdT\">Sunday Firesides: You Never Know How Many Chapters Are Still to Come<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dyingbreed.net\/p\/sunday-firesides-do-the-right-thing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.dyingbreed.net\/p\/sunday-firesides-do-the-right-thing&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581169000&amp;usg=AOvVaw04ceqF9oXrGu17k3Zd2-TP\">Sunday Firesides: Do the Right Thing, for Right Now<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/lifestyle\/best-of\/best-podcast-episodes-on-finding-meaning-and-purpose\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/lifestyle\/best-of\/best-podcast-episodes-on-finding-meaning-and-purpose\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581169000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1FyUElMkTQ2HOZHzFRLDNL\">AoM Article: The 5 Best AoM Podcast Episodes on Finding Meaning and Purpose<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/career-wealth\/career\/finding-your-calling-part-i-what-is-a-vocation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/career-wealth\/career\/finding-your-calling-part-i-what-is-a-vocation\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581169000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2OM9O-7f7hAb5TSO9HImX9\">AoM series on finding your life&#8217;s vocation<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><b>Connect With Jim Collins<\/b><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jimcollins.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/www.jimcollins.com\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1777209581169000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3ZbGPHACWArZssFM0ifup1\">Jim&#8217;s website<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/41QwDFT\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-193391\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/04\/71nmVEFviDL._SL1500_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"325\" height=\"493\" srcset=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/04\/71nmVEFviDL._SL1500_.jpg 325w, https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2026\/04\/71nmVEFviDL._SL1500_-320x485.jpg 320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 325px) 100vw, 325px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Listen to the Podcast! (And don\u2019t forget to leave us a review!)<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-art-of-manliness\/id332516054?mt=2\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-111440 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2020\/02\/listen-apple-podcasts.jpg\" alt=\"Apple Podcast.\" width=\"300\" height=\"77\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLLIasrSrFGdQRgdfSoUfBx2Bt8O4LcpVD&amp;si=vlWpk0HXq82aR1Hi\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-191972\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2025\/12\/YouTube.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"76\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes332516054\/the-art-of-manliness\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-111443 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2020\/02\/overcast-1.png\" alt=\"Overcast.\" width=\"300\" height=\"79\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2vJHmWhhcMQRXtTruuFWTJ\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-111444 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2020\/02\/spotify.png\" alt=\"Spotify.\" width=\"300\" height=\"109\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/castro.fm\/podcast\/3c765314-b44c-410d-91c5-a36600abcca3\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-191297\" src=\"https:\/\/content.artofmanliness.com\/uploads\/2020\/08\/podcastcastro_orig.png\" alt=\"Listen on Castro button.\" width=\"300\" height=\"100\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/art19.com\/shows\/the-art-of-manliness\/episodes\/e7142e37-e556-484d-a099-535806d3a436\">Listen to the episode on a separate page<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rss.art19.com\/episodes\/e7142e37-e556-484d-a099-535806d3a436.mp3\">Download this episode<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rss.art19.com\/the-art-of-manliness\">Subscribe to the podcast in the media player of your choice<\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Transcript Coming Soon<\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While we often think of life as linear, my guest\u2019s own life, along with a decade of research, has taught him that it\u2019s anything but. 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