{"id":173397,"date":"2022-10-10T10:03:23","date_gmt":"2022-10-10T15:03:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=173397"},"modified":"2026-09-07T16:42:40","modified_gmt":"2026-09-07T21:42:40","slug":"podcast-840-when-to-quit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/character\/self-improvement\/podcast-840-when-to-quit\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #840: When to Quit"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>&#8220;Don&#8217;t be a quitter!&#8221; &#8220;Quitters never win, and winners never&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">quit<\/span>!&#8221;<\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>These maxims encapsulate&nbsp;our usual attitude&nbsp;towards&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">quitting<\/span>, which is to see it as a bad thing, a weakness, a character&nbsp;defect. We celebrate those who stick with things, who have grit.<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>But my guest would say that&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">quit<\/span>&nbsp;and grit are just two sides of&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">the<\/span>&nbsp;same coin, and that&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">quitting<\/span>&nbsp;is a valuable skill to learn and get good at. Her name is Annie Duke, and she&#8217;s a former professional&nbsp;poker player, a speaker, a consultant, and an author. In her latest book,&nbsp;<i><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3RIZGne\"><span class=\"il\">Quit<\/span>:&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">The<\/span>&nbsp;Power of Knowing When to Walk Away<\/a><\/i>,&nbsp;she seeks to rehabilitate&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">quitting<\/span> by showing how \u2014 whether it&#8217;s in <span class=\"il\">the<\/span> context of ending a relationship, leaving a job, or climbing a mountain \u2014 it has essential benefits. We discuss those benefits in today&#8217;s show, as well as how to know when to <span class=\"il\">quit<\/span>. We unpack how whether you should stick with something comes down to an equation of its positive &#8220;expected value,&#8221; how setting&nbsp;goals too rigidly&nbsp;can get in&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">the<\/span>&nbsp;way of our being able to assess that value, and&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">the<\/span>&nbsp;cognitive biases that keep you from&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">quitting<\/span>&nbsp;when you should. We end our conversation with two strategies&nbsp;for overcoming&nbsp;these biases, including&nbsp;establishing &#8220;kill criteria&#8221; to&nbsp;<span class=\"il\">give<\/span>&nbsp;yourself a timetable&nbsp;for how long to go after an aim.<\/p>\n<h2>&nbsp;<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t be a quitter!&#8221; &#8220;Quitters never win, and winners never&nbsp;quit!&#8221; &nbsp; These maxims encapsulate&nbsp;our usual attitude&nbsp;towards&nbsp;quitting, which is to see it as a bad thing, a weakness, a character&nbsp;defect. We celebrate those who stick with things, who have grit. But my guest would say that&nbsp;quit&nbsp;and grit are just two sides of&nbsp;the&nbsp;same coin, and that&nbsp;quitting&nbsp;is a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":194864,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[502,156,42388],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-173397","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-character","category-podcast","category-self-improvement"],"featured_image_urls":{"large":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/840-538x280.png","medium_large":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/840-768x432.png","aom":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/840-372x230.png","reactor-320":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/840-320x180.png","reactor-640":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/840-640x360.png"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v28.4 (Yoast SEO v28.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Podcast #840: When to Quit | The Art of Manliness<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/beta.artofmanliness.com\/character\/self-improvement\/podcast-840-when-to-quit\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Podcast #840: When to Quit | The Art of Manliness\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"&#8220;Don&#8217;t be a quitter!&#8221; &#8220;Quitters never win, and winners never&nbsp;quit!&#8221; &nbsp; These maxims encapsulate&nbsp;our usual attitude&nbsp;towards&nbsp;quitting, which is to see it as a bad thing, a weakness, a character&nbsp;defect. 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