{"id":169130,"date":"2022-02-23T13:23:56","date_gmt":"2022-02-23T19:23:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/?p=169130"},"modified":"2026-09-15T13:26:40","modified_gmt":"2026-09-15T18:26:40","slug":"beyond-ooda-varg-freeborn-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artofmanliness.com\/skills\/tactical\/beyond-ooda-varg-freeborn-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast #781: Beyond OODA \u2014 Developing the Orientation for Conflict and Violence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The OODA Loop \u2014 the OODA stands for Observe, Orient, Decide, Act \u2014 is a strategic tool designed to help people make better decisions when facing any kind of competitor or opponent.<\/p>\n<p>My guest today says that when that opponent is a seasoned criminal, the Orient component of OODA \u2014 a person&#8217;s mindset \u2014 is the most underestimated and critical part of the model to understand.<\/p>\n<p>His name is Varg Freeborn and he&#8217;s the author of <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3BKSFfg\"><em>Violence of Mind: Training and Preparation for Extreme Violence<\/em><\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3HerVVt\"><em>Beyond OODA: Developing the Orientation for Deception, Conflict, and Violence<\/em><\/a>. We begin with how Varg&#8217;s life story has uniquely positioned him to understand the dynamics of violence from the perspectives of both the perpetrators of crime, and the would-be preventers of that crime. Varg shares how he went from being a convicted felon to a self-defense and firearms instructor who&#8217;s worked with both civilians and law enforcement.<\/p>\n<p>We then turn to why it&#8217;s so important to understand the difference between the orientation of an average person and the orientation of a violent criminal, and why, when the two collide, the latter has a real advantage over the former. 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