Join the Scouts. Grow a Beard

The Boy Scouts of America have a new ad campaign out called “Be One With the Wild” featuring Boy Scouts with super manly/kinda creepy full-grown lumberjack beards. I think it’s a really great campaign. Glad to see the Boys Scouts are having some fun with their outdoorsy image. And if it inspires a few 10-year-olds to join the Scouts, all the better.

I’m looking forward to the Beard Grooming merit badge.

 

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Bryant Turnage November 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm

I’ll admit, it’s a sharp campaign. It does a great job of driving home their core message, and will reach the types of kids they hope to appeal to – or, more likely, their dads.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t change the fact that it would more appropriately read:

“Be One With the Wild”*

*Unless you are an agnostic, atheist, or homosexual.

James Hood November 7, 2011 at 4:30 pm

I guess they were a nice organization before they became bigoted against atheists and gays. And were caught shielding pedophiles.

jweaks November 7, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Very cool! I’m not sure if that’s an official campaign, but I would like to see it. Appears to be aimed at the Cubs more than the Boys. Go BSA.

TK November 7, 2011 at 4:36 pm

I love Scouting! Not only is it great for boys and men, it is still one of the strongest bastions of traditional, conservative values. If you oppose the homosexualist agenda and believe in Intelligent Design (the only thing that makes sense), put your boys in Scouts. Organizations like Scouting are the hope for the future of America.

Great campaign, and yes, somewhat strange. Great for grabbing attention for sure!

Dan November 7, 2011 at 4:39 pm

For the record my scout troop had multiple atheists, agnostics, and homosexuals, but to us they were just friends we hiked, camped, and learned with. Although the official stances of the organization are reprehensible, individual troops are capable of ignoring bigoted policies, and in the case of my troop, provide some awesome opportunities for aspiring outdoorsy guys regardless of their religion or sexuality. I think this is a funny ad, and, at least in some instances, a great organization.

Roy Miller November 7, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Thank God they haven’t changed since they were established. NEVER allowed atheists or sexual perverts knowingly.

Chris November 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm

This is possibly pff-topic and irrelevant, but just so everyone is aware, the Scouts organisation in Commonwealth countries has absolutely none of these religious/homophobic issues. In fact, in my youth I was able to alter the Scout pledge to remove any reference to God.

Dan November 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm

please do not associate me with TK, we obviously have different ideas about what scouting stands for. I perceive the Scout Law (“a scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent”) to support a respectful, accepting attitude toward all others, whereas TK seems to think its more about Creationism (not the only thing that makes sense) and the exclusion of groups that disagree with his world view.
Not all scouts think like TK does, as at least 1 Eagle Scout can attest.

Rangerpat November 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

This is brilliant. I am an Eagle Scout and served as a camp ranger for 5 years at my local camp. I am now the head Campmater. While I do not agree with the BSA’s stance on all issues, however the core mission of the Scouting movement is one I wholeheartedly beleive in. They teach boys skills that are hard to learn anywhere else, not just knife sharpening and fire building. (granted we all joined up for those two reasons, knives and fire) but organization and leadership. I’m hoping this new campaign serves them well. P.S. I grew my first beard on a 10 day backpacking trip with the Boy Scouts

Jean-Paul November 7, 2011 at 4:50 pm

In Canada our pledge still says “..to God and the Queen..” but as an areligious sort I make sure to talk to the kids about what this means, and that it might mean different things to each of us.
The Canadian Scouting policy is of strict INclusion, and that exclusion from Scouting for any reason is unacceptable and contrary to Scouting principles.

Jean-Paul November 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm

PS. Awesome campaign. Hilarious and eye-catching!

Dawson Clawson November 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm

Everyone should know that the experience you get in Scouting completely depends on the parents running the troop or committee. If you don’t like the attitude or culture of one troop, you can most likely find another troop down the road. You can also create your own troop, although I have no idea how to do that.

Scouting can open a boy’s mind to the vast world outside their neighborhood and Xbox Live friend list. It can teach him how to be a man before he reaches the age of 18, learn to live in accordance with his community and environment, and even save a few lives.

Eagle Scout/Brotherhood OA

TK November 7, 2011 at 5:08 pm

Those who don’t like the values of the Boy Scouts can always put their sons in the Girl Scouts. They’re inclusive.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/transgender-boy-attempt-join-girl-scouts-initially-rejected-boy-parts-article-1.968179

Cato November 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Since when was close-minded prejudice against non-believers and gays a manly trait? The Boy Scouts should be commended for the skills they teach, not the values they instill or discrimination they practice.

Dawson Clawson November 7, 2011 at 5:14 pm

Also, I forgot to mention that during my experience with Scouting there was no such thing as exclusion – even from girls. We camped with girls during something called the International Encampment at Camp Strake in Conroe, Texas. We welcomed Scouts from every country and continent. We camped, hiked, ate, worked, and relaxed together as one large family. While there are some Scouting programs that preach conservative values, one should remember that MENTALLY AWAKE means to be aware of your actions and how your actions are perceived by others. If a program chooses to preach a value system based on an inclusive moral system, it diminishes the value that Scouting should provide. Scouting should promote and participate in the forming of boys into mature, free-thinking and humble men who respect, accept, and/or tolerate those that aren’t like him.

Shawn Elliott November 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Or you can be a REAL man, and take your kid camping and teach them good morals and survival skills yourself, instead of falling back on a national organization to do it for you.

Darrell November 7, 2011 at 5:19 pm

Right Shawn. Because “real men” don’t like to give their boys opportunities to make friends outside of their family. Probably a weird home schooler.

Kakaw of the Wild November 7, 2011 at 5:31 pm

Hah, great ads!

Side note: I find in interesting that others can be bigoted against people and their values and religious beliefs, but atheists and homosexuals are off limits, and can lob stones at whoever they want. Seems awfully hypocritical, and very philosophically bankrupt. Everybody has an opinion on what is right and wrong and has come to different conclusions where we came from…get over it.

Doug November 7, 2011 at 5:35 pm

Scouts do have a religious/moral connotation to them, and probably always will. The above post about different troops having a different take on this is spot-on. My son earned his Eagle a few years ago and I had many great experiences with many activities within his troop during his 5 years there. None of it involved bashing gays or atheists, and as an agnost myself I simply practiced tolerance during the occasional religious reference or ceremony as they came up. You get out of it what you put into it, and myself and my son got out of it a very enriching experience that will stay with us the rest of our lives.

R.K. Steinkirchner November 7, 2011 at 6:33 pm

Great Ad! It shows that Scouts is a cool, manly organization ala AoM, Dos XX and Degree campaigns. I think it is aimed at Dads as much, if not more than their sons. The parents are usually who push the kids into joining. I am a 27 year old Eagle Scout, but I can still remember being drug kicking and screaming by my dad to my first Tiger Cub meeting. My dad, along with all of my friend’s dads, were our scoutmasters. Nobody got molested, and the worst thing we ever caught them doing was smoking cigars and drinking bourbon around their campfire they started with 1 match, a fine example of manliness to us all.
P.S. I dont ever remember being taught to dislike gays or atheists, although as an adult after meeting a few, they really annoy me, and thats my right.

Mike Ramsey November 7, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Why is it that stating the objectives of an organization has to mean that it is excluding anyone? Any organization should have the right to set the standards its members agree to uphold. Why would anyone want to join an organization whose standards and principles do not match their own? I just don’t get why girls want to be in boys groups, and why agnostics or atheists want to be in clubs that decide to have religion as a guiding principle. Why does any group have to change for non-members? It’s no secret that the Boy Scouts have affiliated themselves with God. It’s right there in the Oath; “On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty to God and my Country, and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.”
I happen to know this by heart, because I’m an Eagle Scout, but it’s no secret. All you have to do is look it up on the web now. Why would a gay person want to be in an organization that stated up front that its members were expected to be “morally straight”? Why is that a surprise to anyone?
And it’s not like it’s Harvard or something, where if you don’t get into Boy Scouts your career choices are limited. Being an Eagle Scout meant something when I was getting into the workforce decades ago, but how much weight does it carry now? Not much, unfortunately.
This is a purely voluntary organization, that should be allowed to set its membership parameters, and accept or reject anyone they wish for any reason.
Oh, and I think I’ll start growing that beard now.

Jeff November 7, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Love it! I hope BSA keeps it up and this helps give the boys a boost. In an Xbox world like today, boys have a need for an old-school establishment. My troop took dozens of boys, many without dads in their home, and instilled many values of manhood like self-reliance and preparedness. My patrol grew up into a Navy SEAL, a pilot, a paramedic, and others, and we still keep in touch almost twenty years later. I don’t think any of us can grow a beard as rockin’ as these boys, though…

Matt November 7, 2011 at 7:05 pm

To everyone who has an axe to grind with the BSA for its stances on homosexuality and atheist, it seems incredibly ignorant to condemn the entire organization for that. In my experience (at least where I come from) most troops ignored those policies and as long as you didn’t push the issue, no one cared. If fact, from my time in Scouts, I remember that sexuality almost never came up as a topic of discussion and religon was simply a non-denomational backdrop (much in the same way it says “under god” in the pledge or “in god we trust” on coins).

What Scouting does do is gives teenage boys a place free from the pressures of Middle school and High school, where they are taught the foundations of character, citizenship, and fitness. It gives them chances to become confident in themselves by providing activities that challenge them. It teaches them responsibility by having them hold leadership roles and do service projects. Ultimately Scouting has a far more positive effect on the creation of young men, then it does negatively.

-A Eagle Scout’s two cents on the matter

Dick November 7, 2011 at 7:27 pm

I am whole-heartedly in favor of this campaign. When I made Eagle it was a great time in my life, and one of my first great feelings of accomplishment. It is my hope that many more boys will see these playful posters and become interested in the skills and values that were passed to me in my years as a scout.

I’m now 27 and I look forward to joining my sons in Scouting. I also agree with Matt (above) in that sexuality and religion are not focal points in a scout’s time. Sure there are times where religion is discussed, mostly to promote tolerance and acceptance of different religions in the community. The same is taught in sexuality. Acceptance and growth were what we promoted, and are key points in becoming a responsible young man.

The main reason for parents getting their kids into scouting is much the same for any social activity (be it sports, theatre, music, service). To have fun, learn, and grow.

James November 7, 2011 at 7:49 pm

My kids are involved in Scouting and it is one of the best experiences for them. There are very few activities where boys of different ages are thrown together anymore. My junior high kids learn from the high school kids and the high school kids get to learn how to teach and be leaders. Boys need to just be boys and have an activity that is just for them, not girls.

So far my sons have learned outdoor skills, how to teach others, teamwork and honestly have learned skills that will apply to the real world instead of some the P.C. crap that they are picking up in school.

Andy November 7, 2011 at 8:15 pm

For God’s sake, can we stop being preachy about gay and atheist rights for just a mintue and admit that photos of young boys rockin’ manly beards are pretty damn excellent? Bunch of raised-in-a-mayonnaise jar, PC crybabies…..dang.

Ron November 7, 2011 at 8:48 pm

As a scout and a scout leader I think it’s great! It’s about time they had some good commercials to draw in some young men. As for all the PC crap, I always thought it was wrong to talk about inclusion and acceptance while excluding or condemning a group. Just another do as I say not as I do thing.

Dave November 7, 2011 at 8:55 pm

I went through cub scouts and boy scouts start to finish. In 10+ years I was never told to hate people with different religious beliefs or lifestyles. Quite the opposite. I was taught to look out for others (and for myself), to stand up for what’s right, and to have courtesy and respect for others. Yes, its a faith-based organization (and I am a Christian). But in my experience with scouting, faith was always celebrated as a call to service – never used as a platform to preach/teach hate.

Thanks to the scouts, I developed useful life skills and an active interest in the outdoors and conservation. At age 31, I still consider earning my Eagle as one of my more notable achievements. As for the ad… its funny stuff. As an appreciator of beards and a supporter of the BSA, I approve!

If I ever have a son, he’ll definitely have the opportunity to join the BSA if he’s interested in such things.

Armando Miccoli November 8, 2011 at 12:25 am

I thought I would second what Dan and Dave said. Growing up in the Boy Scouts, there was never a moment where anybody sat down and asked about religious beliefs, sexuality, or anything else. What was taught though was to be accepting of different people from different groups, beliefs, and lifestyles.

I was curious about the issue when I was younger and asked my scoutmaster directly about it. What I was told was that most troops really didn’t care about the policy. He asked me if anyone had every asked me any questions about my religion or sexuality (which no one had), and that the situation was really not as prominent as people made it out to be.

He then explained to me what the situation was for the adult leaders regarding the policy. He explained that while someone who was flaunting their homosexuality in front of the boys would be asked to tone it down, the same would done for a heterosexual individual flaunting their sexuality in front of the boys. The policy was made in attempt to keep sexuality away from the program to begin with.

With what happened years ago, in an unfortunate select few troops, involving pedophiles, the BSA as an organization had to do something to prevent the situation from happening again. What resulted was two policies: 1) that scouts were not allowed to camp in the same tent as an adult who was not their parent and 2) individuals sexually oriented towards males (whether they were male or female), were not allowed to go on camping trips with the scouts. Because of the nature of camp outs, there could be numerous potential situations that someone with bad intentions could take advantage of. The BSA decided to play it safe and protect their scouts from potential situations, and made the ruling they did. It was not to imply homosexuals were pedophiles any more than anyone else, they just wanted to make sure what had happened did not happen again.

We were taught, however, to treat all people with dignity and respect. When I was in high school, the controversy in the Episcopalian church was going on about the church promoting an openly homosexual clergy member to the position of Bishop. At that time, some of the other churches where in an outrage about the situation, and were preaching hellfire about the “sins of homosexuality.” It got to the point where some of the boys at school began to seriously bully one of the openly gay students at our school. I had heard about it and saw the bruises on the individual, so another boy in my troop and I decided to take care of him, and stayed by his side to defend him. Sure enough, after about a day or two, several boys from the church came to “smear the queer.” My friend and I stood in their way. We got our asses handed to us, but we knew defending this young man was the right thing to do. I ended up having to get 4 teeth replaced for that incident. Do you know what the scoutmaster told us, when he sat us down to talk about the situation? He told us that he does not support fist fighting or physical violence, but standing up for another person’s rights took honor, courage and bravery, and that standing up for people’s right is what being an American and a Boy Scout is about.

I am sad to see that a policy made in earnest desire to protect the scouts, has had such a strong negative impact on many people’s perception of the organization, though I can understand why it has. The BSA was not trying to make a moral stand against homosexuality, or to become “elitist” by excluding other people. They were only trying to do what is right by the boys. I am sorry to know that so many boys will lose out on the opportunity to learn the many amazing things that the Boy Scouts has to teach, and to be a part of that environment, because people take a stand against a national policy that really doesn’t come into play. The Boy Scouts were highly influential in my early life, and I wouldn’t be the man I am today if it were not for the organization. Earning my Eagle Scout was the highest honor I have ever earned, and I will always consider it such, no matter what I do in my life. I didn’t have a stable father figure in my life growing up, but through the Boy Scouts I met several wonderful men who took me under their wings and taught me the lessons I needed to know growing up. Boy Scouting is not about excluding others, elitism, or moral high grounds. Fundamentally, it is about one thing… teaching and sculpting young boys, from different backgrounds and opportunities, to become men and productive members of society. It is about taking the great traditions of manhood and passing it down from one generation to the next, in a time where many boys, like me, have no one to show them the way. After all, isn’t that what the Art of Manliness is all about; reaching out and reclaiming our heritage as men?

And by the way, just for a final note, I am an Eagle Scout, bisexual, and not a Christian, but I feel completely comfortable in my ability to walk back into the organization, through any troop of my choice, and have no problems due to sexuality or religion. No one would know, nor care, as long as I wasn’t making it an issue.

Armando November 8, 2011 at 12:30 am

Sorry about the length of the previous post, but the issue is one that hits home for me. The true values and ethics of the Boy Scouting program are layed out plainly in the Scout Law, which follows. As you can see, there are several parts about acceptance of others and differing points of view.

A Scout is Trustworthy.
A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.

A Scout is Loyal.
A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.

A Scout is Helpful.
A Scout is concerned about other people. He does things willingly for others without pay or reward.

A Scout is Friendly.
A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He seeks to understand others. He respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.

A Scout is Courteous.
A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows good manners make it easier for people to get along together.

A Scout is Kind.
A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.

A Scout is Obedient.
A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.

A Scout is Cheerful.
A Scout looks for the bright side of things. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.

A Scout is Thrifty.
A Scout works to pay his way and to help others. He saves for unforeseen needs. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.

A Scout is Brave.
A Scout can face danger even if he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at or threaten him.

A Scout is Clean.
A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He goes around with those who believe in living by these same ideals. He helps keep his home and community clean.

A Scout is Reverent.
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

Michael November 8, 2011 at 2:52 am

On my honor I will do my best to DO MY DUTY TO GOD and my country. To help other people at all times and to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and MORALLY STRAIGHT.

This is pretty clear-cut. How many atheists or homosexuals do you know who can live the scout promise? Once upon a time, scouts were actually expected to live the principles they espoused. Its not the BSA’s job to make you feel good about being a homosexual or an atheist. There are other clubs and groups for that, and I don’t see any straight men crying about not being able to join a gay pride club. Its a private organization. Why do you care so much who they accept into their group? If you can’t live it, don’t join. The end.

Dave November 8, 2011 at 6:00 am

For those that condemn the whole of scouting for an issue that is, in context, such a tiny part of the program, I ask the question, with what do you propose filling the gap in society left by the obliteration of Scouting?

If all you perceive in scouting is bigotry, then you are truly blilnd to the issue and have been sucked in to the egalitarian agenda sweeping our culture. Those with this agenda never seem to state what comes after, what they will supplement for the institutions they destroy. To build takes genius, time, work and sacrifice; destruction is accomplished by any fool.

The fact is, on the whole, Scouting produces massive goodness for our society with the character of those it nurtures. So you condemn it for having standards. Again I ask, with what will you replace it that will contribute as much and inspire as many to goodness?

Joshua November 8, 2011 at 9:20 am

outstanding. maybe they’ll be able to wash out the narrow minded stereotypes of some of the simpletons that posted prior.

Dr. Mike November 8, 2011 at 10:13 am

Yikes! When did this become the “I hate the Boy Scouts” site?

The Scouts are a GREAT organization that, yes, encourages religious participation, and yes, due to the fact there are boys in the organization, it does draw pedophiles but goes to GREAT lengths to identify these predators and discriminate against them.

The nasty arguments posted here could be said about ANY group, because all groups are made up of imperfect humans.
If you can find a group that is perfect, please go ahead and cast that first stone.

Chris M. November 8, 2011 at 12:55 pm

I’m the Assistant Cubmaster for my son’s pack and I can tell you I’ve never worked with a more accepting group of people. We include those with learning disabilities and little sisters get to go on the campouts. We even have Den Mothers now, that are just as likely to be prosecuted for any molesting they would do as the male leaders. Now that’s equality. I’m an Agnostic, by the way, who embraces the fact that Scouting believes in spirituality and learning to be “Christ-like.” The Golden Rule goes a long way in life.

Those dumping on the institution were probably the kids who never made it past Wolf because they couldn’t hack the “notoriously” tough standards? Get with the program. This isn’t the UN. Scouting was a program designed to pre-train young boys for the military, fostering critical thinking skills, physical toughness, living off the land, good citizenship and adaptability. Not that everyone should finish first. You’re just as likely to encounter pedophiles and bad people in schools, politics, churches and police stations as in Scouting. Hey, everyone’s human.

I’m thinking we need to add “proper care and usage of a straight-razor” as a requirement for the “whittling” chit. Now my Webelo wants to grow out his beard. I think it’ll be a while without Photoshop.

Jared November 8, 2011 at 12:55 pm

To my fellow scouters:
Please stop apologizing for your principles. We all know that Scouting is one of THE BEST places to learn how to embrace people of all cultures and creeds without necessarily accepting their beliefs. The haters consistently confuse these two ideas and the hipocrisy is palpable. The Boy Scouts of America is a private, volunteer organization with a 100 year history or turning good (and not-so-good) boys into great men under the influence of self-imposed principles and values. The fact that the vocal-minority-whose-faith-choices-differ-from-mine argue that those principles are merely good(?) psychology and/or philosophy does not obligate me to apologize for what I believe are divine truths. On my honor, I will do my best…

John Galt November 8, 2011 at 2:38 pm

If you don’t like scouts then send your kids to Penn State and there’s a guy named Sandusky who can look after them for ya!

Erin November 8, 2011 at 4:03 pm

I love this. Is it a real ad campaign? If so – “Go Scouts!” This is my son’s first year in Cub Scouts and he is loving it.

What is up with men bitching about inclusivity/exclusivity? How unmanly!

Thanks for posting this, AOM, love it.

CB November 8, 2011 at 5:39 pm

The new campaign is pretty cool in my opinion.
I was in Christian Service Brigade which is sorta like scouts for presbyterians. Other church denominations had similar programs but the principles were the same. If I have a son someday I wouldn’t hesitate to put him in scouts if another program wasn’t available. I had some of the best times of my life with the friends I had then.
On a side note, we did tend to poke fun at the scouts because whenever we were camping at or near the same locations, the boys and dads would be off while the moms were setting up camp. When we camped we could set up and cook for ourselves without the moms. (They went on their own camping trips!) It was fun to have a ready made opponent for games of ultimate frisbee or late night capture the flag, though.

Kenneth Johnston November 9, 2011 at 4:43 pm

Wonderfully creative and hilarious ad! Definitely got my attention.

As for the jabs being tossed around What is it about the society of the individualist which requires that no organization or group values should be aspired to?
Dear haters, have you ever been apart of any organization/team/club? Or is it just those dastardly scouts and their manly skill sharpening that you despise?

I personally wish that I could have balanced the scouts with sports or had a more dynamic local organization. How much better to learn these skills as a child than as a bumbling old man who never got around to it.

Jim November 10, 2011 at 9:42 am

I received my Eagle Scout in 2010. I completed my BOR the night before I turned 18 and I joined scouts the first day I was eligible. I was in BSA for 7+ years. In that 7 years I was with one troop, and I saw people come and go for a plethora of reasons. Pertaining to what obviously some of you who had bad experiences in scouts, I am deeply sorry. I had 3 boys be told to leave because time and time again they could not follow the rules. My troop was mostly boys from middle class families. These 3 kids came in together basically off the street. They were headed in the right direction until they were basically kicked out. They were told that we would help them find another troop. 7 years down the road, 1 one of them is in jail, I see another walking up and down the worst street in town almost every day. Who knows what could have been different if my Scoutmasters would have been a little more patient (It came to a boiling point when I had a shouting match with our SM over it) In the SM defense though, the boys had probably a dozen chances handed to them and just could never make the right decision.

Another incident that stands out, is a boy who asked me if he could see my dude parts because he was “curious”. He was probably 11 and I was 16. I had a long talk with him as I was in a place of leadership and did not see the need to take it to the SM at this point because I knew exactly what would happen. 2 months down the road and his dad, a committee member, was heard mentioning something about a certain kind of sexual act in front of some of the boys. On the same trip, the same kid made a move on another boy while he was asleep. By god, they were asked to leave and not to come back. They found another troop, and I have no idea if they are still involved or not. The kid is in high school now and I’m pretty sure openly gay.

There is absolutely 0 room for that kind of behavior in ANY organization. I found out in the end that I was not the only one to try and have a talk with the kid before taking the action of removing him from the troop.

So to all of you negative nancies on here. I’m deeply sorry that you had a bad experience in the Boy Scouts of America. Do not let one person ruin the image of what BSA is and always will be. Get over it, some boys like camping and fishing and things of the sort. Other like easy bake ovens, and guess what there is a cooking merit badge!

The times may change and people have to embrace that and become more tolerant. But DO NOT expect a 100 year old non-profit, private organization to bend at the mercy of people like some of you on here just because you have to be mad at someone else because you can’t find your place in the world. If you are one of the ones who had a bad experience, and it was because you were gay or an atheist. I’m going to tell you something. You knew what you signed up for, you read the scout law and oath. If you are an atheist you don’t go to church, and that is fine, it’s your belief. Scouting is a religious organization and you knew that.

I’m sorry, my rant is over. I just can’t stand for anyone to run down and organization that helped me and countless other boys become valuable citizens. I made my best friends in the Boy Scouts.

It’s simple enough, if you don’t like it or agree with it then move on. Start yourself your own troop, anyone can do it as long as you pass background checks. If you start your own troop you make your own rules, simple as that.

Sorry, I’m really through this time.

Armando November 10, 2011 at 5:05 pm

Again, the BSA is not trying to pass some moral judgement on gays and athiests. They are not trying to be witch hunters or anything else like that. Simply put, sexuality of any form is highly inappropriate for the scouting program and will be treated as such. The Scouts are a religious organization, that is open to individuals who is willing to at the very least be open minded enough to deal with other people having religious beliefs or ceremonies. They always have been, and always will be. Simply put. I have to agree with Jim on this. BTW congrats on getting your Eagle, man.

Tank November 12, 2011 at 11:09 am

Why are there so many pro-homosexuals on a site dedicated to manliness? Is enjoying a d##k in your a## manly?

Athens February 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm

Fantastic ad. I also am an Eagle Scout and proud to be one. I also believe that the core values that scouting taut me made me a better person because. Now that I am older I do have friends and acquaintances with different religious beliefs and sexual orientations. This being said, I don’t agree with the bashing of the BSA. It IS a private organization. If one does not agree with its rules or beliefs don’t join. What is the problem. I truly believe where we(men) have lost a great deal of our manliness is from becoming so damn PC. Should you boycot the Miss America pageant for not letting in transvestites? Or how about Miss Black America for not allowing a Caucasian to enter? People need to get over themselves and stop trying to water everything down trying to make it palatable for the entire populous.

John February 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm

America is comming back to the values that Scouting NEVER left

Joe September 1, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Quit bitching about religion and sexual preferences, join the scouts, build a fire, watch some birds, camp out in the woods (not your Backyard), and don’t forget guys……have FUN with your sons while they still think you are pretty damn cool!!!!

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