The Art of Manliness Podcast #41: The Gentlemen & The Roughs With Dr. Lorien Foote

by Brett on February 22, 2013 · 5 comments

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Welcome back to another episode of the Art of Manliness podcast!

A few months ago we did a massive series on the history of manly honor in the West. In one of the posts, we explored what honor meant to men living in the American North at the time of the Civil War and how different codes of honor clashed in the Union Army. One of the sources we used while researching for that post was a fascinating book entitled The Gentlemen and the Roughs: Violence, Honor, and Manhood in the Union Army



In today’s podcast, I talk to the author of that book, Dr. Lorien Foote. Dr. Foote is a professor of history at the University of Central Arkansas where she specializes in 19th century American history.

Highlights from the episode include:

  • Why calling a fellow soldier a “son of a bitch” when you killed him made a difference in the type of punishment you received in the Union Army.
  • How the honor of officers and enlisted soldiers differed.
  • What’s a “rough and tumble” (hint: it involves eye gouging).
  • What role dueling played in the Union Army at the time of the Civil War.
  • How Northern and Southern honor differed.
  • And much more!

If you enjoyed our series on manly honor, I highly recommend finding a copy of the Gentlemen and the Roughs. Out of all the books we read on the history of honor, this was definitely the most enjoyable and interesting read.

Listen to the Podcast!

Read the Manly Honor Series: 
Part I: What is Honor?
Part II: The Decline of Traditional Honor in the West, Ancient Greece to the Romantic Period
Part III: The Victorian Era and the Development of the Stoic-Christian Code of Honor
Part IV: The Gentlemen and the Roughs: The Collision of Two Honor Codes in the American North
Part V: Honor in the American South
Part VI: The Decline of Traditional Honor in the West in the 20th Century
Part VII: How and Why to Revive Manly Honor in the Twenty-First Century

{ 5 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Curt February 22, 2013 at 7:37 pm

Hey Brett,

Glad that the podcasts are back.

Still catching up on the previous episodes, but glad to see they will be continuing.


2 Dave February 23, 2013 at 9:32 am


Lovely to have another Podcast. It was really interessting to hear about the different views of honour and how they conflicted.
Hope your sniff is better already ;-)


3 Joel February 25, 2013 at 10:46 pm

Loved the series on manly honor. It helped me deal with daily conflicts a modern day sailor.


4 Nate February 27, 2013 at 12:32 pm


What do you two think personally about the “coolness” approach to adversity compared to more traditional retaliation/anger?

I mean besides the practical and legal aspect- if you could design a society that you would not be able to rule, which honor would you prefer the citizens to follow?

If my reading list wasn’t an entire bookshelf already, I’d grab the book today. Thanks for the honor series and podcast :)

5 JD Sutter February 28, 2013 at 3:31 pm

Hi Brett,

Glad to see you’ve started up the show again. I really like how it compliments the content you guys create on the blog. Really liked the episode about the strongman.

If you ever need assistance with the production, promotion, or other technical aspects of podcasting please let me know and I’d love to assist. I’ve been producing shows since 2007.

Anyway, keep the great episodes coming! Love the site.


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