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	<title>Comments on: Manvotional: Theodore Roosevelt on Integrity in Private and Public Life</title>
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		<title>By: SmilingAhab</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmilingAhab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Garrett: &quot;it must do justice to those who were subject to harm, loss or injury by another citizen, and it must protect the citizenry from external invasion.&quot;

And, as this is often the desire or ultimate goal of those over whom the state exerts the most force over, regulations and judicial response fall precisely into your above sentiment. To remove all regulation is merely to allow the pressure to shift to the judiciary, and give greater latitude to those who feel it is their entitlement as the nobility, whether attained or inherited, to run roughshod over the bulk of humanity. Mandatory minimum sentencing was introduced to protect minorities from excessive and false charges through subjecting caucasians to the same level of judicial rulings, but has simply turned into harsher and often senseless, rehabilitation-void punishment for minorities while caucasians just don&#039;t get arrested or charged. 

Second, the end quote assumes money and power are separable. Money and power convert as quickly and fludily as anything, and in all practicality are the same thing. So long as either exist, both will exist. 

thirdly, there are goals in any civilization that can never be achieved by any individual, group, corporation or corporate group, especially in the scientific arena. When the rulers of the market wish to bend the market in one direction, but the constituency&#039;s purchasing power or overwhelming scientific consensus, or projects on a continental or global scale become priorities is not enough to change minds and bend human and financial capital in another, an artifice is needed to ensure the national allocation of power, funds and ability does not come to resemble only what the owners of the means of production wish it to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Garrett: &#8220;it must do justice to those who were subject to harm, loss or injury by another citizen, and it must protect the citizenry from external invasion.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, as this is often the desire or ultimate goal of those over whom the state exerts the most force over, regulations and judicial response fall precisely into your above sentiment. To remove all regulation is merely to allow the pressure to shift to the judiciary, and give greater latitude to those who feel it is their entitlement as the nobility, whether attained or inherited, to run roughshod over the bulk of humanity. Mandatory minimum sentencing was introduced to protect minorities from excessive and false charges through subjecting caucasians to the same level of judicial rulings, but has simply turned into harsher and often senseless, rehabilitation-void punishment for minorities while caucasians just don&#8217;t get arrested or charged. </p>
<p>Second, the end quote assumes money and power are separable. Money and power convert as quickly and fludily as anything, and in all practicality are the same thing. So long as either exist, both will exist. </p>
<p>thirdly, there are goals in any civilization that can never be achieved by any individual, group, corporation or corporate group, especially in the scientific arena. When the rulers of the market wish to bend the market in one direction, but the constituency&#8217;s purchasing power or overwhelming scientific consensus, or projects on a continental or global scale become priorities is not enough to change minds and bend human and financial capital in another, an artifice is needed to ensure the national allocation of power, funds and ability does not come to resemble only what the owners of the means of production wish it to.</p>
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		<title>By: Garret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as we live under a government, we will be subject to the whims of those elected or (far more often) appointed, and the eternal debate will be, &quot;who should the government help? What should the government give to people? To what are citizens entitled?&quot; This is a debate that cannot be legitimately won.

TR frames his story as a warning against the government giving a private citizen something that he is not entitled; but as a poster above noted, if we accept the premise that the government ought to be giving out goods or services (in a positive sense), then we will eternally argue over which goods or services a citizen is actually entitled to.

The only solution is to get government out of the business of assisting (in the POSITIVE sense) anyone - no subsidies, no redistribution, nothing. Its responsibilities must be solely reactive: it must do justice to those who were subject to harm, loss or injury by another citizen, and it must protect the citizenry from external invasion. This is ALL that it should do.

We hear so often about the dangers of money in politics, as money can &quot;buy&quot; votes. Why would anybody wish to &quot;buy&quot; a vote? So that the politician whose vote is bought will later assist their donor through subsidies, tax breaks, or favorable regulation. Take away the government&#039;s power to do these things, however, and the question of &quot;money in politics&quot; becomes moot. 

&quot;The solution to money buying power is to limit not the money but the power.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we live under a government, we will be subject to the whims of those elected or (far more often) appointed, and the eternal debate will be, &#8220;who should the government help? What should the government give to people? To what are citizens entitled?&#8221; This is a debate that cannot be legitimately won.</p>
<p>TR frames his story as a warning against the government giving a private citizen something that he is not entitled; but as a poster above noted, if we accept the premise that the government ought to be giving out goods or services (in a positive sense), then we will eternally argue over which goods or services a citizen is actually entitled to.</p>
<p>The only solution is to get government out of the business of assisting (in the POSITIVE sense) anyone &#8211; no subsidies, no redistribution, nothing. Its responsibilities must be solely reactive: it must do justice to those who were subject to harm, loss or injury by another citizen, and it must protect the citizenry from external invasion. This is ALL that it should do.</p>
<p>We hear so often about the dangers of money in politics, as money can &#8220;buy&#8221; votes. Why would anybody wish to &#8220;buy&#8221; a vote? So that the politician whose vote is bought will later assist their donor through subsidies, tax breaks, or favorable regulation. Take away the government&#8217;s power to do these things, however, and the question of &#8220;money in politics&#8221; becomes moot. </p>
<p>&#8220;The solution to money buying power is to limit not the money but the power.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It always makes me sad every election when I realize people are out voting to take (more) from me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always makes me sad every election when I realize people are out voting to take (more) from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll never forget this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll never forget this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, and President Roosevelt also told Congress on two occasions of his State of the Union address that one of the biggest threats to democracy was the power of corporate money to buy the votes of Congress. President Eisenhower also warned of the danger of corporate money corrupting government. Sad to say these warnings have been ignored and worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, and President Roosevelt also told Congress on two occasions of his State of the Union address that one of the biggest threats to democracy was the power of corporate money to buy the votes of Congress. President Eisenhower also warned of the danger of corporate money corrupting government. Sad to say these warnings have been ignored and worse.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the whole speech and you may get a very different view of what he meant. 

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/research/speech%20arena.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the whole speech and you may get a very different view of what he meant. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/research/speech%20arena.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/research/speech%20arena.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: BYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[newly hired cowboy = 95% of the politicians out there today]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>newly hired cowboy = 95% of the politicians out there today</p>
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		<title>By: Ken R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Progressive Theodore Roosevelt summed up eugenicist theory: &quot;Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce.&quot;

Mark Twain, who met him twice, judged that he was &quot;clearly insane&quot;

Geez, even a complete imperialist like TR says something correct now and again, but the fawning above is a bit much.
Forget the public-school diatribes we all were taught, find the true histories and read those...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressive Theodore Roosevelt summed up eugenicist theory: &#8220;Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mark Twain, who met him twice, judged that he was &#8220;clearly insane&#8221;</p>
<p>Geez, even a complete imperialist like TR says something correct now and again, but the fawning above is a bit much.<br />
Forget the public-school diatribes we all were taught, find the true histories and read those&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of you nailed it.  The bottom line is that as a culture, we no longer value the lessons of history so learning about it has become a mere hobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of you nailed it.  The bottom line is that as a culture, we no longer value the lessons of history so learning about it has become a mere hobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Melvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Melvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are the type of comments, speeches and quotes that should be taught in our schools and universities;  however, present day schools do not feel the need to teach real history, only that which is politically correct and which fits the left-leaning policies of those who simply do not believe in the strength and good of our great country and its constitution.  Let&#039;s start a move to make sure proper history (BOTH AMERICAN AND INTERNATIONAL) is again emphasized in schools at all levels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the type of comments, speeches and quotes that should be taught in our schools and universities;  however, present day schools do not feel the need to teach real history, only that which is politically correct and which fits the left-leaning policies of those who simply do not believe in the strength and good of our great country and its constitution.  Let&#8217;s start a move to make sure proper history (BOTH AMERICAN AND INTERNATIONAL) is again emphasized in schools at all levels.</p>
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