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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I shared this to my best friend as a sign of how much I treasure him. After he read it, I remember him saying &quot;Thanks&quot; to me and patted my back earnestly. I figured he was touched by the poem.

I am really blessed to have him as my thousandth man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shared this to my best friend as a sign of how much I treasure him. After he read it, I remember him saying &#8220;Thanks&#8221; to me and patted my back earnestly. I figured he was touched by the poem.</p>
<p>I am really blessed to have him as my thousandth man.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Keck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Keck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another offering by Brother Kipling. Wonderful stuff!  


The Ballad of East and West

 

 



Rudyard Kipling (1865–1936)

 

 

 





 

 

OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,



 

Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;



 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,



 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!



 

Kamal is out with twenty men to raise the Border side,

        5

 

And he has lifted the Colonel’s mare that is the Colonel’s pride:



 

He has lifted her out of the stable-door between the dawn and the day,



 

And turned the calkins upon her feet, and ridden her far away.



 

Then up and spoke the Colonel’s son that led a troop of the Guides:



 

“Is there never a man of all my men can say where Kamal hides?”

        10

 

Then up and spoke Mahommed Khan, the son of the Ressaldar,



 

“If ye know the track of the morning-mist, ye know where his pickets are.



 

At dusk he harries the Abazai—at dawn he is into Bonair,



 

But he must go by Fort Bukloh to his own place to fare,



 

So if ye gallop to Fort Bukloh as fast as a bird can fly,

        15

 

By the favor of God ye may cut him off ere he win to the Tongue of Jagai,



 

But if he be passed the Tongue of Jagai, right swiftly turn ye then,



 

For the length and the breadth of that grisly plain is sown with Kamal’s men.



 

There is rock to the left, and rock to the right, and low lean thorn between,



 

And ye may hear a breech-bolt snick where never a man is seen.”

        20

 

The Colonel’s son has taken a horse, and a raw rough dun was he,



 

With the mouth of a bell and the heart of Hell, and the head of the gallows-tree.



 

The Colonel’s son to the Fort has won, they bid him stay to eat—



 

Who rides at the tail of a Border thief, he sits not long at his meat.



 

He ’s up and away from Fort Bukloh as fast as he can fly,

        25

 

Till he was aware of his father’s mare in the gut of the Tongue of Jagai,



 

Till he was aware of his father’s mare with Kamal upon her back,



 

And when he could spy the white of her eye, he made the pistol crack.



 

He has fired once, he has fired twice, but the whistling ball went wide.



 

“Ye shoot like a soldier,” Kamal said. “Show now if ye can ride.”

        30

 

It ’s up and over the Tongue of Jagai, as blown dust-devils go,



 

The dun he fled like a stag of ten, but the mare like a barren doe.



 

The dun he leaned against the bit and slugged his head above,



 

But the red mare played with the snaffle-bars, as a maiden plays with a glove.



 

There was rock to the left and rock to the right, and low lean thorn between,

        35

 

And thrice he heard a breech-bolt snick tho’ never a man was seen.



 

They have ridden the low moon out of the sky, their hoofs drum up the dawn,



 

The dun he went like a wounded bull, but the mare like a new-roused fawn.



 

The dun he fell at a water-course—in a woful heap fell he,



 

And Kamal has turned the red mare back, and pulled the rider free.

        40

 

He has knocked the pistol out of his hand—small room was there to strive,



 

“’T was only by favor of mine,” quoth he, “ye rode so long alive:



 

There was not a rock for twenty mile, there was not a clump of tree,



 

But covered a man of my own men with his rifle cocked on his knee.



 

If I had raised my bridle-hand, as I have held it low,

        45

 

The little jackals that flee so fast, were feasting all in a row:



 

If I had bowed my head on my breast, as I have held it high,



 

The kite that whistles above us now were gorged till she could not fly.”



 

Lightly answered the Colonel’s son:—“Do good to bird and beast,



 

But count who come for the broken meats before thou makest a feast.

        50

 

If there should follow a thousand swords to carry my bones away,



 

Belike the price of a jackal’s meal were more than a thief could pay.



 

They will feed their horse on the standing crop, their men on the garnered grain,



 

The thatch of the byres will serve their fires when all the cattle are slain.



 

But if thou thinkest the price be fair,—thy brethren wait to sup,

        55

 

The hound is kin to the jackal-spawn,—howl, dog, and call them up!



 

And if thou thinkest the price be high, in steer and gear and stack,



 

Give me my father’s mare again, and I ’ll fight my own way back!”



 

Kamal has gripped him by the hand and set him upon his feet.



 

“No talk shall be of dogs,” said he, “when wolf and gray wolf meet.

        60

 

May I eat dirt if thou hast hurt of me in deed or breath;



 

What dam of lances brought thee forth to jest at the dawn with Death?”



 

Lightly answered the Colonel’s son: “I hold by the blood of my clan:



 

Take up the mare for my father’s gift—by God, she has carried a man!”



 

The red mare ran to the Colonel’s son, and nuzzled against his breast,

        65

 

“We be two strong men,” said Kamal then, “but she loveth the younger best.



 

So she shall go with a lifter’s dower, my turquoise-studded rein,



 

My broidered saddle and saddle-cloth, and silver stirrups twain.”



 

The Colonel’s son a pistol drew and held it muzzle-end,



 

“Ye have taken the one from a foe,” said he; “will ye take the mate from a friend?”

        70

 

“A gift for a gift,” said Kamal straight; “a limb for the risk of a limb.



 

Thy father has sent his son to me, I ’ll send my son to him!”



 

With that he whistled his only son, that dropped from a mountain-crest—



 

He trod the ling like a buck in spring, and he looked like a lance in rest.



 

“Now here is thy master,” Kamal said, “who leads a troop of the Guides,

        75

 

And thou must ride at his left side as shield on shoulder rides.



 

Till Death or I cut loose the tie, at camp and board and bed,



 

Thy life is his—thy fate it is to guard him with thy head.



 

So thou must eat the White Queen’s meat, and all her foes are thine,



 

And thou must harry thy father’s hold for the peace of the border-line.

        80

 

And thou must make a trooper tough and hack thy way to power—



 

Belike they will raise thee to Ressaldar when I am hanged in Peshawur.”



 

 



They have looked each other between the eyes, and there they found no fault,



 

They have taken the Oath of the Brother-in-Blood on leavened bread and salt:



 

They have taken the Oath of the Brother-in-Blood on fire and fresh-cut sod,

        85

 

On the hilt and the haft of the Khyber knife, and the Wondrous Names of God.



 

The Colonel’s son he rides the mare and Kamal’s boy the dun,



 

And two have come back to Fort Bukloh where there went forth but one.



 

And when they drew to the Quarter-Guard, full twenty swords flew clear—



 

There was not a man but carried his feud with the blood of the mountaineer.

        90

 

“Ha’ done! ha’ done!” said the Colonel’s son. “Put up the steel at your sides!



 

Last night ye had struck at a Border thief—to-night ’t is a man of the Guides!”



 

 



Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,



 

Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;



 

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,

        95

 

When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another offering by Brother Kipling. Wonderful stuff!  </p>
<p>The Ballad of East and West</p>
<p>Rudyard Kipling (1865–1936)</p>
<p>OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,</p>
<p>Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;</p>
<p>But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,</p>
<p>When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!</p>
<p>Kamal is out with twenty men to raise the Border side,</p>
<p>        5</p>
<p>And he has lifted the Colonel’s mare that is the Colonel’s pride:</p>
<p>He has lifted her out of the stable-door between the dawn and the day,</p>
<p>And turned the calkins upon her feet, and ridden her far away.</p>
<p>Then up and spoke the Colonel’s son that led a troop of the Guides:</p>
<p>“Is there never a man of all my men can say where Kamal hides?”</p>
<p>        10</p>
<p>Then up and spoke Mahommed Khan, the son of the Ressaldar,</p>
<p>“If ye know the track of the morning-mist, ye know where his pickets are.</p>
<p>At dusk he harries the Abazai—at dawn he is into Bonair,</p>
<p>But he must go by Fort Bukloh to his own place to fare,</p>
<p>So if ye gallop to Fort Bukloh as fast as a bird can fly,</p>
<p>        15</p>
<p>By the favor of God ye may cut him off ere he win to the Tongue of Jagai,</p>
<p>But if he be passed the Tongue of Jagai, right swiftly turn ye then,</p>
<p>For the length and the breadth of that grisly plain is sown with Kamal’s men.</p>
<p>There is rock to the left, and rock to the right, and low lean thorn between,</p>
<p>And ye may hear a breech-bolt snick where never a man is seen.”</p>
<p>        20</p>
<p>The Colonel’s son has taken a horse, and a raw rough dun was he,</p>
<p>With the mouth of a bell and the heart of Hell, and the head of the gallows-tree.</p>
<p>The Colonel’s son to the Fort has won, they bid him stay to eat—</p>
<p>Who rides at the tail of a Border thief, he sits not long at his meat.</p>
<p>He ’s up and away from Fort Bukloh as fast as he can fly,</p>
<p>        25</p>
<p>Till he was aware of his father’s mare in the gut of the Tongue of Jagai,</p>
<p>Till he was aware of his father’s mare with Kamal upon her back,</p>
<p>And when he could spy the white of her eye, he made the pistol crack.</p>
<p>He has fired once, he has fired twice, but the whistling ball went wide.</p>
<p>“Ye shoot like a soldier,” Kamal said. “Show now if ye can ride.”</p>
<p>        30</p>
<p>It ’s up and over the Tongue of Jagai, as blown dust-devils go,</p>
<p>The dun he fled like a stag of ten, but the mare like a barren doe.</p>
<p>The dun he leaned against the bit and slugged his head above,</p>
<p>But the red mare played with the snaffle-bars, as a maiden plays with a glove.</p>
<p>There was rock to the left and rock to the right, and low lean thorn between,</p>
<p>        35</p>
<p>And thrice he heard a breech-bolt snick tho’ never a man was seen.</p>
<p>They have ridden the low moon out of the sky, their hoofs drum up the dawn,</p>
<p>The dun he went like a wounded bull, but the mare like a new-roused fawn.</p>
<p>The dun he fell at a water-course—in a woful heap fell he,</p>
<p>And Kamal has turned the red mare back, and pulled the rider free.</p>
<p>        40</p>
<p>He has knocked the pistol out of his hand—small room was there to strive,</p>
<p>“’T was only by favor of mine,” quoth he, “ye rode so long alive:</p>
<p>There was not a rock for twenty mile, there was not a clump of tree,</p>
<p>But covered a man of my own men with his rifle cocked on his knee.</p>
<p>If I had raised my bridle-hand, as I have held it low,</p>
<p>        45</p>
<p>The little jackals that flee so fast, were feasting all in a row:</p>
<p>If I had bowed my head on my breast, as I have held it high,</p>
<p>The kite that whistles above us now were gorged till she could not fly.”</p>
<p>Lightly answered the Colonel’s son:—“Do good to bird and beast,</p>
<p>But count who come for the broken meats before thou makest a feast.</p>
<p>        50</p>
<p>If there should follow a thousand swords to carry my bones away,</p>
<p>Belike the price of a jackal’s meal were more than a thief could pay.</p>
<p>They will feed their horse on the standing crop, their men on the garnered grain,</p>
<p>The thatch of the byres will serve their fires when all the cattle are slain.</p>
<p>But if thou thinkest the price be fair,—thy brethren wait to sup,</p>
<p>        55</p>
<p>The hound is kin to the jackal-spawn,—howl, dog, and call them up!</p>
<p>And if thou thinkest the price be high, in steer and gear and stack,</p>
<p>Give me my father’s mare again, and I ’ll fight my own way back!”</p>
<p>Kamal has gripped him by the hand and set him upon his feet.</p>
<p>“No talk shall be of dogs,” said he, “when wolf and gray wolf meet.</p>
<p>        60</p>
<p>May I eat dirt if thou hast hurt of me in deed or breath;</p>
<p>What dam of lances brought thee forth to jest at the dawn with Death?”</p>
<p>Lightly answered the Colonel’s son: “I hold by the blood of my clan:</p>
<p>Take up the mare for my father’s gift—by God, she has carried a man!”</p>
<p>The red mare ran to the Colonel’s son, and nuzzled against his breast,</p>
<p>        65</p>
<p>“We be two strong men,” said Kamal then, “but she loveth the younger best.</p>
<p>So she shall go with a lifter’s dower, my turquoise-studded rein,</p>
<p>My broidered saddle and saddle-cloth, and silver stirrups twain.”</p>
<p>The Colonel’s son a pistol drew and held it muzzle-end,</p>
<p>“Ye have taken the one from a foe,” said he; “will ye take the mate from a friend?”</p>
<p>        70</p>
<p>“A gift for a gift,” said Kamal straight; “a limb for the risk of a limb.</p>
<p>Thy father has sent his son to me, I ’ll send my son to him!”</p>
<p>With that he whistled his only son, that dropped from a mountain-crest—</p>
<p>He trod the ling like a buck in spring, and he looked like a lance in rest.</p>
<p>“Now here is thy master,” Kamal said, “who leads a troop of the Guides,</p>
<p>        75</p>
<p>And thou must ride at his left side as shield on shoulder rides.</p>
<p>Till Death or I cut loose the tie, at camp and board and bed,</p>
<p>Thy life is his—thy fate it is to guard him with thy head.</p>
<p>So thou must eat the White Queen’s meat, and all her foes are thine,</p>
<p>And thou must harry thy father’s hold for the peace of the border-line.</p>
<p>        80</p>
<p>And thou must make a trooper tough and hack thy way to power—</p>
<p>Belike they will raise thee to Ressaldar when I am hanged in Peshawur.”</p>
<p>They have looked each other between the eyes, and there they found no fault,</p>
<p>They have taken the Oath of the Brother-in-Blood on leavened bread and salt:</p>
<p>They have taken the Oath of the Brother-in-Blood on fire and fresh-cut sod,</p>
<p>        85</p>
<p>On the hilt and the haft of the Khyber knife, and the Wondrous Names of God.</p>
<p>The Colonel’s son he rides the mare and Kamal’s boy the dun,</p>
<p>And two have come back to Fort Bukloh where there went forth but one.</p>
<p>And when they drew to the Quarter-Guard, full twenty swords flew clear—</p>
<p>There was not a man but carried his feud with the blood of the mountaineer.</p>
<p>        90</p>
<p>“Ha’ done! ha’ done!” said the Colonel’s son. “Put up the steel at your sides!</p>
<p>Last night ye had struck at a Border thief—to-night ’t is a man of the Guides!”</p>
<p>Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the two shall meet,</p>
<p>Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;</p>
<p>But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,</p>
<p>        95</p>
<p>When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have yet to find that friend]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to find that friend</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/01/07/manvotional-the-thousandth-man/comment-page-1/#comment-199877</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Mother had three sons,  She kept a framed copy of &quot;If&quot; on the wall of the room we shared.  It shaped our lives.  Along side it was a copy of a &quot;Code for Cowboys&quot; someone had written.  I keep a framed postor of the &quot;Code of the West&quot; attached below, in my office where I look at it every day.  And yes, I do carry a Colt .45.

http://cowboyethics.org/TenPrinciples.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Mother had three sons,  She kept a framed copy of &#8220;If&#8221; on the wall of the room we shared.  It shaped our lives.  Along side it was a copy of a &#8220;Code for Cowboys&#8221; someone had written.  I keep a framed postor of the &#8220;Code of the West&#8221; attached below, in my office where I look at it every day.  And yes, I do carry a Colt .45.</p>
<p><a href="http://cowboyethics.org/TenPrinciples.php" rel="nofollow">http://cowboyethics.org/TenPrinciples.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Merc</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/01/07/manvotional-the-thousandth-man/comment-page-1/#comment-199469</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never read this before.  I&#039;m glad I just did.

I have such a friend.  Closer than a brother and truly one in a thousand.

He&#039;s always been there for me when I need support, but also when I need to be taken down a notch.  A lost art if you ask me.  And am the better man for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never read this before.  I&#8217;m glad I just did.</p>
<p>I have such a friend.  Closer than a brother and truly one in a thousand.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s always been there for me when I need support, but also when I need to be taken down a notch.  A lost art if you ask me.  And am the better man for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/01/07/manvotional-the-thousandth-man/comment-page-1/#comment-199453</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like Stephen, I too lost a friend that was that one thousandth man. If 18 years of serving together, sharing the same dirt, life&#039;s ups and downs, and sharing our lives make me gay, who cares. After his memorial, I was told something that fits well here, &quot;you can drink from my canteen any day&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Stephen, I too lost a friend that was that one thousandth man. If 18 years of serving together, sharing the same dirt, life&#8217;s ups and downs, and sharing our lives make me gay, who cares. After his memorial, I was told something that fits well here, &#8220;you can drink from my canteen any day&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/01/07/manvotional-the-thousandth-man/comment-page-1/#comment-199398</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very good, for those With a son try IF by Kipling]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good, for those With a son try IF by Kipling</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a darker side to this poem. What if you had that &quot;thousandth&quot; man, and he passed?

That happened to me. I&#039;ll never forget my dear friend.

So guys, if you have that thousandth man, treasure him for the treasure he is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a darker side to this poem. What if you had that &#8220;thousandth&#8221; man, and he passed?</p>
<p>That happened to me. I&#8217;ll never forget my dear friend.</p>
<p>So guys, if you have that thousandth man, treasure him for the treasure he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Vardhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vardhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very good poem... gave me the same feeling i had when i first read &quot;if&quot; by him in 7th grade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good poem&#8230; gave me the same feeling i had when i first read &#8220;if&#8221; by him in 7th grade.</p>
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		<title>By: don Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>don Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad, I&#039;m pretty sure you could figure out how suggesting people have a relationship with your god is somewhat dismissive or disrespectful of their beliefs, but let me suggest just one angle for your consideration.

Unless I misremember, your god claims not merely supremacy, but uniqueness.  Unless you&#039;re a Christian henotheist (rarer than hen&#039;s teeth, I suspect), suggesting someone have a relationship with *your* god would require they forgo any relationship they may already have with other deity/ies, no?  They would have to deny not only their previous connection and beliefs, but the very *existence* of whatever deity/ies with whom they had had a prior relationship.  How can that be anything but denigrating their current relationships?  Clearly, you imply that to have a relationship with *your* god is better than what they have.  That may be your belief, but just as one may believe one&#039;s wife is better in all ways than that of one&#039;s friend, one does not go trumpeting it to one&#039;s friend.

I didn&#039;t say I was offended, I said your remark was inappropriate, just as any other kind of religious proselytizing is inappropriate here.

I wasn&#039;t asking for &quot;supporting evidence:&quot; religion isn&#039;t about evidence, it&#039;s about faith.  John Michael Greer, in his book &quot;A World Full of Gods,&quot; discusses quite effectively why no religion (or &quot;relationship,&quot; for those who prefer the term) has a stronger claim to T/truth than any other, when viewed objectively.   Rather than ask for &quot;supporting evidence,&quot; I&#039;m suggesting that you reconsider whether this is the appropriate forum for proselytizing.  I don&#039;t do it to you: perhaps you could extend me the same courtesy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, I&#8217;m pretty sure you could figure out how suggesting people have a relationship with your god is somewhat dismissive or disrespectful of their beliefs, but let me suggest just one angle for your consideration.</p>
<p>Unless I misremember, your god claims not merely supremacy, but uniqueness.  Unless you&#8217;re a Christian henotheist (rarer than hen&#8217;s teeth, I suspect), suggesting someone have a relationship with *your* god would require they forgo any relationship they may already have with other deity/ies, no?  They would have to deny not only their previous connection and beliefs, but the very *existence* of whatever deity/ies with whom they had had a prior relationship.  How can that be anything but denigrating their current relationships?  Clearly, you imply that to have a relationship with *your* god is better than what they have.  That may be your belief, but just as one may believe one&#8217;s wife is better in all ways than that of one&#8217;s friend, one does not go trumpeting it to one&#8217;s friend.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say I was offended, I said your remark was inappropriate, just as any other kind of religious proselytizing is inappropriate here.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t asking for &#8220;supporting evidence:&#8221; religion isn&#8217;t about evidence, it&#8217;s about faith.  John Michael Greer, in his book &#8220;A World Full of Gods,&#8221; discusses quite effectively why no religion (or &#8220;relationship,&#8221; for those who prefer the term) has a stronger claim to T/truth than any other, when viewed objectively.   Rather than ask for &#8220;supporting evidence,&#8221; I&#8217;m suggesting that you reconsider whether this is the appropriate forum for proselytizing.  I don&#8217;t do it to you: perhaps you could extend me the same courtesy.</p>
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