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	<title>Comments on: Viewers vs. Doers: The Rise of Spectatoritis</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/08/28/viewers-vs-doers-the-rise-of-spectatoritis/comment-page-2/#comment-283396</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well written and insightful article.
It has made me see things in a new light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written and insightful article.<br />
It has made me see things in a new light.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/08/28/viewers-vs-doers-the-rise-of-spectatoritis/comment-page-2/#comment-163163</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article. Too often we like staying on the sidelines because we&#039;re so afraid of getting hurt, and worse than that, being left behind by a society that doesn&#039;t seem to promote being our brother&#039;s keepers any longer. It&#039;s because of this that we feel humbled before someone like Dakota Meyer, who risked his life to get not only his fellow soldiers out of harm&#039;s way, but to recover the bodies of his brothers who fell before him. We starve for the feeling that someone&#039;s going to be out there covering our back, then grow weary and cynical when it seems like everyone&#039;s out for themselves alone. Best to stay in the crowd where you don&#039;t have to risk injury and abandonment.

In my mind, the first rule of manliness is that you always watch your brother&#039;s back, because he&#039;s the one who will make sure you get home if something happens, and you owe it to him to do the same for him. Of course, this rule requires that we accept our vulnerability and mortality, which is incredibly frightening.

Anyway, thanks again for the article, and Boomer Sooner!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. Too often we like staying on the sidelines because we&#8217;re so afraid of getting hurt, and worse than that, being left behind by a society that doesn&#8217;t seem to promote being our brother&#8217;s keepers any longer. It&#8217;s because of this that we feel humbled before someone like Dakota Meyer, who risked his life to get not only his fellow soldiers out of harm&#8217;s way, but to recover the bodies of his brothers who fell before him. We starve for the feeling that someone&#8217;s going to be out there covering our back, then grow weary and cynical when it seems like everyone&#8217;s out for themselves alone. Best to stay in the crowd where you don&#8217;t have to risk injury and abandonment.</p>
<p>In my mind, the first rule of manliness is that you always watch your brother&#8217;s back, because he&#8217;s the one who will make sure you get home if something happens, and you owe it to him to do the same for him. Of course, this rule requires that we accept our vulnerability and mortality, which is incredibly frightening.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks again for the article, and Boomer Sooner!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Weedall</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/08/28/viewers-vs-doers-the-rise-of-spectatoritis/comment-page-2/#comment-162796</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Weedall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you prefer it if instead of simply agreeing broadly with othe peoples statements we instituted a 5 point bulletin of everything we liked or disliked about their points or the article?

I hate it when people go &quot;me to&quot; just so that they can post something in regards to an article, and simply being able to go &quot;I broadly agree with this statement&quot; takes a lot of boredom out of reading and re-reading the same posts with very little difference between them,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you prefer it if instead of simply agreeing broadly with othe peoples statements we instituted a 5 point bulletin of everything we liked or disliked about their points or the article?</p>
<p>I hate it when people go &#8220;me to&#8221; just so that they can post something in regards to an article, and simply being able to go &#8220;I broadly agree with this statement&#8221; takes a lot of boredom out of reading and re-reading the same posts with very little difference between them,</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boulding</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/08/28/viewers-vs-doers-the-rise-of-spectatoritis/comment-page-2/#comment-162714</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Boulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing post, and quite moving.

However, I was reading through the comments, and I noticed how some people were talking about how kicking back and watching a movie or reading a book are so inactive. I believe that such a line of thinking can be disasterous to a healthy life style. Yes, we need to be active, we need to be in the ring, rather then just on the sidelines. But spectatoritis doesn&#039;t necessarily apply to EVERY book read or every TV show watched. These are forms of art that are created to be consumed, if we were to stop watching movies, why would they make them? If we stopped reading books, why would they write them? The danger is in over-indulgence. If you watch TV simply for the sake of watching a movie, then it&#039;s almost saiting an addiction. If you watch a movie because you wish to enjoy the art and the story, let&#039;s take Lord of the Rings for example. When I watch The Lord of the Rings, I imagine myself in the shoes of Aragorn, I see his struggles, his triumphs, and I walk away inspired, thinking &#039;I want to be like that.&#039; Another is Battlestar Galactica, and Admiral Adama. Two iconic characters that ooze manliness, and I try and take their lessons and apply it to my own life.

What I&#039;m trying to say is all things in moderation, including moderation itself. You have to let loose once in a while, the key is the time and the place, and the attitude. &quot;Work hard, play hard, sleep hard.&quot; is my motto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing post, and quite moving.</p>
<p>However, I was reading through the comments, and I noticed how some people were talking about how kicking back and watching a movie or reading a book are so inactive. I believe that such a line of thinking can be disasterous to a healthy life style. Yes, we need to be active, we need to be in the ring, rather then just on the sidelines. But spectatoritis doesn&#8217;t necessarily apply to EVERY book read or every TV show watched. These are forms of art that are created to be consumed, if we were to stop watching movies, why would they make them? If we stopped reading books, why would they write them? The danger is in over-indulgence. If you watch TV simply for the sake of watching a movie, then it&#8217;s almost saiting an addiction. If you watch a movie because you wish to enjoy the art and the story, let&#8217;s take Lord of the Rings for example. When I watch The Lord of the Rings, I imagine myself in the shoes of Aragorn, I see his struggles, his triumphs, and I walk away inspired, thinking &#8216;I want to be like that.&#8217; Another is Battlestar Galactica, and Admiral Adama. Two iconic characters that ooze manliness, and I try and take their lessons and apply it to my own life.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m trying to say is all things in moderation, including moderation itself. You have to let loose once in a while, the key is the time and the place, and the attitude. &#8220;Work hard, play hard, sleep hard.&#8221; is my motto.</p>
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		<title>By: Serraboy</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/08/28/viewers-vs-doers-the-rise-of-spectatoritis/comment-page-2/#comment-162553</link>
		<dc:creator>Serraboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article.  I&#039;m ashamed of myself for sitting here &quot;spectating&quot; on this site about manliness!  Get you *ss outside and do something.  For me and my boys, we love the outdoors.  Fish, hunt, camp, hike, bike and ski year &#039;round mostly in the woods and water of Michigan.

We started only going to amateur sporting events and I think spectatoritis has alot to do with it (now knowing what that is!).  Better to go watch a high school football game with a few others than college or pro (same thing in my book!) with 10&#039;s of thousands.

I need to also add that I don&#039;t like most of what I read on this site.  It&#039;s devoid of one of the most critical values of REAL MEN:  Faith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I&#8217;m ashamed of myself for sitting here &#8220;spectating&#8221; on this site about manliness!  Get you *ss outside and do something.  For me and my boys, we love the outdoors.  Fish, hunt, camp, hike, bike and ski year &#8217;round mostly in the woods and water of Michigan.</p>
<p>We started only going to amateur sporting events and I think spectatoritis has alot to do with it (now knowing what that is!).  Better to go watch a high school football game with a few others than college or pro (same thing in my book!) with 10&#8242;s of thousands.</p>
<p>I need to also add that I don&#8217;t like most of what I read on this site.  It&#8217;s devoid of one of the most critical values of REAL MEN:  Faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/08/28/viewers-vs-doers-the-rise-of-spectatoritis/comment-page-2/#comment-162551</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree wholeheartedly with what was said here. Being from Alabama and our two college football teams winning the National Championship two years in a row. It&#039;s amazing how people over-react to football. Especially football. The overpriced tickets, the non-stop &quot;souvenir&quot; purchases, and the never ending debates at work about who&#039;s team is better. And 99% of these people have zero affiliation with the schools and teams they so adamantly back. The ones who do, care less than the ones who don&#039;t.

I do however have a problem with one thing the Brett has to say. I enjoy watching movies. Brett wrote how he jokingly is still the snob without the tv, but watches Hulu. I have a friend who enjoys ribbing me about the same thing. The only thing is just because you don&#039;t watch a TV show on a television set doesn&#039;t mean you aren&#039;t still watching TV. As I said earlier, I enjoy watching movies and documentaries. And, unlike sports I feel it&#039;s a completely different scenario. Regardless of the outcome in sporting event nothing in life changes. Life would have continued on just the same if it had never happened. However a movie with a well drawn script, a decent cast, and an interesting plot can make you think and give you scenarios to discuss afterward with people who also saw the movie. You can develop real what ifs and hows. After watching it, just like sports, nothing really changes, but you&#039;ll leave a theater with a thousand things running through your mind. Now with that in mind, I&#039;m not saying this will happen when you pop in Super Troopers or any Farrelly brothers movie. But think about the classics, movies like Citizen Kane or something similar. Just like a good book, a movie can stimulate your mind and creates discussion. Now, please don&#039;t think I am trying to lump movies into the same category as books. I understand the importance, value and timelessness of a good book as opposed to a good movie. But please, please, please for my sake, don&#039;t lump movies into the same category as sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly with what was said here. Being from Alabama and our two college football teams winning the National Championship two years in a row. It&#8217;s amazing how people over-react to football. Especially football. The overpriced tickets, the non-stop &#8220;souvenir&#8221; purchases, and the never ending debates at work about who&#8217;s team is better. And 99% of these people have zero affiliation with the schools and teams they so adamantly back. The ones who do, care less than the ones who don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I do however have a problem with one thing the Brett has to say. I enjoy watching movies. Brett wrote how he jokingly is still the snob without the tv, but watches Hulu. I have a friend who enjoys ribbing me about the same thing. The only thing is just because you don&#8217;t watch a TV show on a television set doesn&#8217;t mean you aren&#8217;t still watching TV. As I said earlier, I enjoy watching movies and documentaries. And, unlike sports I feel it&#8217;s a completely different scenario. Regardless of the outcome in sporting event nothing in life changes. Life would have continued on just the same if it had never happened. However a movie with a well drawn script, a decent cast, and an interesting plot can make you think and give you scenarios to discuss afterward with people who also saw the movie. You can develop real what ifs and hows. After watching it, just like sports, nothing really changes, but you&#8217;ll leave a theater with a thousand things running through your mind. Now with that in mind, I&#8217;m not saying this will happen when you pop in Super Troopers or any Farrelly brothers movie. But think about the classics, movies like Citizen Kane or something similar. Just like a good book, a movie can stimulate your mind and creates discussion. Now, please don&#8217;t think I am trying to lump movies into the same category as books. I understand the importance, value and timelessness of a good book as opposed to a good movie. But please, please, please for my sake, don&#8217;t lump movies into the same category as sports.</p>
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		<title>By: nkosana</title>
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		<dc:creator>nkosana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article. Couldn&#039;t agree more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it may not fit the dictionary definition of &quot;proactive&quot;, but I don&#039;t think attending sportings events are passive. When you have a bunch of people cheering on one team it creates a feeling of togetherness, cohesion, and excitement. In addition, you often meet new people at such events. I used to have season tickets to the Giants and I became quite good friends with those sitting around me. I don&#039;t have the tickets anymore, but these people are still friends of mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it may not fit the dictionary definition of &#8220;proactive&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think attending sportings events are passive. When you have a bunch of people cheering on one team it creates a feeling of togetherness, cohesion, and excitement. In addition, you often meet new people at such events. I used to have season tickets to the Giants and I became quite good friends with those sitting around me. I don&#8217;t have the tickets anymore, but these people are still friends of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[true. wholeheartedly agree. but come to an SEC game, get loud, and you truly do feel like you are part of the game and making a difference... more than just a spectator. WDE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true. wholeheartedly agree. but come to an SEC game, get loud, and you truly do feel like you are part of the game and making a difference&#8230; more than just a spectator. WDE</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 01:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an excellent, well-balanced, non-condemning post!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching sports or having a favorite team(s), but I believe these should be forms of recreation to help us recharge from the rigors of positively impacting our world. The real problem arises when spectating becomes our way of life.

It seems to me that one of our root issues is the lack of a God-given vision to touch those around us in some meaningful way. This amongst other things leaves us lacking a sense of significance and so it becomes easier to feed off of the glory of others. 

Personally, I want to leave a mark on this world, some type of a legacy that will last beyond my days. It is my hope that I would be motivated by love and not just some vague sense of doing my duty so that I can get back to my real passion of watching the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent, well-balanced, non-condemning post!</p>
<p>There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching sports or having a favorite team(s), but I believe these should be forms of recreation to help us recharge from the rigors of positively impacting our world. The real problem arises when spectating becomes our way of life.</p>
<p>It seems to me that one of our root issues is the lack of a God-given vision to touch those around us in some meaningful way. This amongst other things leaves us lacking a sense of significance and so it becomes easier to feed off of the glory of others. </p>
<p>Personally, I want to leave a mark on this world, some type of a legacy that will last beyond my days. It is my hope that I would be motivated by love and not just some vague sense of doing my duty so that I can get back to my real passion of watching the game.</p>
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