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		<title>By: Gregg Hake</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/07/09/manvotional-cynicism/comment-page-1/#comment-159805</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Hake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my observation the honest skeptic balances cynicism with optimism. He is cautious in the placement of his faith and support, yet not so jaded that he cannot give the full force of his agreement and energies where it is merited. The cynic and the optimist are like blinders on a horse, the former being prejudiced based on the past and the latter being unrealistic about the future. The honest skeptic sits with poise on the saddle, his hands seized upon the reins, ready for anything, surprised by nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my observation the honest skeptic balances cynicism with optimism. He is cautious in the placement of his faith and support, yet not so jaded that he cannot give the full force of his agreement and energies where it is merited. The cynic and the optimist are like blinders on a horse, the former being prejudiced based on the past and the latter being unrealistic about the future. The honest skeptic sits with poise on the saddle, his hands seized upon the reins, ready for anything, surprised by nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hakel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hakel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men need cynicism more today. Either we have men who are mindlessly and weakly &quot;positive&quot; or positive in affirming horrific abuses of power. A good man can cynically doubt the stupidity of the world and yet affirm the valiant, the honourable, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men need cynicism more today. Either we have men who are mindlessly and weakly &#8220;positive&#8221; or positive in affirming horrific abuses of power. A good man can cynically doubt the stupidity of the world and yet affirm the valiant, the honourable, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just discovered this website last week and boy am I glad I did.  This site has incredible articles.  I can&#039;t wait to find free time in my days so that I can read another blog and hear all of the responses.  The articles are amazingly witty but the real wisdom is in all of the comments you guys leave afterwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered this website last week and boy am I glad I did.  This site has incredible articles.  I can&#8217;t wait to find free time in my days so that I can read another blog and hear all of the responses.  The articles are amazingly witty but the real wisdom is in all of the comments you guys leave afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, thanks for the great read.  This was a breath of fresh air for me.  I recently moved from small-town Georgia to a huge urban area and cynicism has definitely crept in on me.  I always just figured it was a sort of change in personality sweeping over me but this has really opened my eyes to a lot.

One of those last lines, &quot;He must not grow cynical of himself, for then nothing remains,&quot; really hit me.  Awesome, thanks Brett!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for the great read.  This was a breath of fresh air for me.  I recently moved from small-town Georgia to a huge urban area and cynicism has definitely crept in on me.  I always just figured it was a sort of change in personality sweeping over me but this has really opened my eyes to a lot.</p>
<p>One of those last lines, &#8220;He must not grow cynical of himself, for then nothing remains,&#8221; really hit me.  Awesome, thanks Brett!</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent read. Was I the only one who read it with the voice of a besuited professor with the hint of an upper-class English accent? It amazes me how far the writing style of today has fallen. On the topic, I believe the author is right on. A good dose of cynicism goes a long way, today more than ever. True, it does need to be tempered, but it definitely makes for more lively debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent read. Was I the only one who read it with the voice of a besuited professor with the hint of an upper-class English accent? It amazes me how far the writing style of today has fallen. On the topic, I believe the author is right on. A good dose of cynicism goes a long way, today more than ever. True, it does need to be tempered, but it definitely makes for more lively debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree with the author that respect for a cynic lurks in many a heart. I know it is this way with myself, and it seems by the outward appearance of much public discourse that the phenomenon is widespread.

The evil of cynicism that the author describes is the malignant (probably unconscious) impulse of the average cynic to destroy and annihilate. His cynicism is his modus operandi to this end, but it also acts to reinforce those dark motivations which point him in that direction. There is a greater theme related to this discussion I think: The wider issue of our frighteningly magnetic attraction to the destroying and corrupting side of human nature. We seem to be drawn to darkness.

I thought this as I read the author&#039;s words about the seemingly insipid nature of loving and constructive deeds, words and attitudes, when compared to what appears to be a more powerful will to rebellion and hatred.

This is a struggle I encounter as I try to apply my Christian belief to the way I conduct my life. My desire is to follow the Way of Christ, which dictates that I must attain to the perfect love of God, in my relationships with friends, family and neighbours, and in my devotion and worship to God. However, I am plagued the belief (which comes into my head unbidden) that living my life according to my own agenda will be easier, more effective, make me more powerful and produce a better end result in the final analysis. This belief is utter delusion, but it spreads like a cancer.

When the dust settles on this inner conflict, I remember I can only rely on God&#039;s grace to strengthen me by reminding me of the reality:
That even when it seems meek and frail on the surface, in truth, the power of love is a consuming fire. And while hatred and selfishness so often seem to tower over all, they will, in the end, result only in cold nothingness.

It is along these lines that I totally agree with the seriousness of the threat of cynicism to manliness.

*And this response is assuming the modern connotations of cynicism. The archaic meaning begs a different discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree with the author that respect for a cynic lurks in many a heart. I know it is this way with myself, and it seems by the outward appearance of much public discourse that the phenomenon is widespread.</p>
<p>The evil of cynicism that the author describes is the malignant (probably unconscious) impulse of the average cynic to destroy and annihilate. His cynicism is his modus operandi to this end, but it also acts to reinforce those dark motivations which point him in that direction. There is a greater theme related to this discussion I think: The wider issue of our frighteningly magnetic attraction to the destroying and corrupting side of human nature. We seem to be drawn to darkness.</p>
<p>I thought this as I read the author&#8217;s words about the seemingly insipid nature of loving and constructive deeds, words and attitudes, when compared to what appears to be a more powerful will to rebellion and hatred.</p>
<p>This is a struggle I encounter as I try to apply my Christian belief to the way I conduct my life. My desire is to follow the Way of Christ, which dictates that I must attain to the perfect love of God, in my relationships with friends, family and neighbours, and in my devotion and worship to God. However, I am plagued the belief (which comes into my head unbidden) that living my life according to my own agenda will be easier, more effective, make me more powerful and produce a better end result in the final analysis. This belief is utter delusion, but it spreads like a cancer.</p>
<p>When the dust settles on this inner conflict, I remember I can only rely on God&#8217;s grace to strengthen me by reminding me of the reality:<br />
That even when it seems meek and frail on the surface, in truth, the power of love is a consuming fire. And while hatred and selfishness so often seem to tower over all, they will, in the end, result only in cold nothingness.</p>
<p>It is along these lines that I totally agree with the seriousness of the threat of cynicism to manliness.</p>
<p>*And this response is assuming the modern connotations of cynicism. The archaic meaning begs a different discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The word &quot;cynicism&quot; began to be used as a derogatory term due to the opposition of its proponents to greed and materialism. For all intents and purposes, the term has been &quot;Fox News&quot;ed over the years to become the negative connotation that it is now. The original Cynics were people who recognized the poisonous nature of seeking man-created ideals like fame and wealth. Can we honestly claim that those who are the wealthiest or most famous are the most virtuous? There are some who will claim just that and it is those people who the true Cynic opposes.

Some claim that cynicism is destructive or non-productive by nature. But by what standard? One who embraces greed or materialism will surely view an opposing viewpoint as counter-productive, yet the Cynic views the &quot;productivity&quot; of the world as an illusion that enslaves people by motivating them to seek the validation of others through their efforts. A true Cynic would not criticize a musician but he would criticize an &quot;entertainer&quot; whose body of work does little to improve the human condition. Not everything that is produced is productive. A Cynic seeks to shed all things that makes a person a slave to his/her desires. Especially in this world in which people seek constant validation, it takes courage to shun popular opinion and strive to become emotionally self-sufficient. That is the true pursuit of a Cynic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;cynicism&#8221; began to be used as a derogatory term due to the opposition of its proponents to greed and materialism. For all intents and purposes, the term has been &#8220;Fox News&#8221;ed over the years to become the negative connotation that it is now. The original Cynics were people who recognized the poisonous nature of seeking man-created ideals like fame and wealth. Can we honestly claim that those who are the wealthiest or most famous are the most virtuous? There are some who will claim just that and it is those people who the true Cynic opposes.</p>
<p>Some claim that cynicism is destructive or non-productive by nature. But by what standard? One who embraces greed or materialism will surely view an opposing viewpoint as counter-productive, yet the Cynic views the &#8220;productivity&#8221; of the world as an illusion that enslaves people by motivating them to seek the validation of others through their efforts. A true Cynic would not criticize a musician but he would criticize an &#8220;entertainer&#8221; whose body of work does little to improve the human condition. Not everything that is produced is productive. A Cynic seeks to shed all things that makes a person a slave to his/her desires. Especially in this world in which people seek constant validation, it takes courage to shun popular opinion and strive to become emotionally self-sufficient. That is the true pursuit of a Cynic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What great comments and discussion! Like many commenters, I don&#039;t precisely agree with everything the author said, but I thought it was excellent food for thought, and hoped that people would take the time to chew it over. Which has certainly happened and I&#039;ve definitely gotten some good food for thought from the discussion itself. 

@Naka/Andrew-
The Atlantic Monthly remains a really excellent publication. I subscribe and really enjoy it--the articles aren&#039;t quite like this, of course, but there are always some excellent and interesting ones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What great comments and discussion! Like many commenters, I don&#8217;t precisely agree with everything the author said, but I thought it was excellent food for thought, and hoped that people would take the time to chew it over. Which has certainly happened and I&#8217;ve definitely gotten some good food for thought from the discussion itself. </p>
<p>@Naka/Andrew-<br />
The Atlantic Monthly remains a really excellent publication. I subscribe and really enjoy it&#8211;the articles aren&#8217;t quite like this, of course, but there are always some excellent and interesting ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point Naka, it would be a treat to find articles like this in a modern newspaper. Luckily we&#039;ve got AoM to fill the void left by the other publications. 

I really like the line &quot;There can be no useful and permanent building up without a clearing of the site; old foundations and debris have to be swept away.&quot; The cynic in me tried to immediately look for an example to refute this point. I&#039;ll definitely be re-reading this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Naka, it would be a treat to find articles like this in a modern newspaper. Luckily we&#8217;ve got AoM to fill the void left by the other publications. </p>
<p>I really like the line &#8220;There can be no useful and permanent building up without a clearing of the site; old foundations and debris have to be swept away.&#8221; The cynic in me tried to immediately look for an example to refute this point. I&#8217;ll definitely be re-reading this one.</p>
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		<title>By: walkaboutdoug</title>
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		<dc:creator>walkaboutdoug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[While I stand by my comments in terms of modern execution, I am also intrigued by the thoughtful posts regarding the metamorphosis of the word and its implication. Imagine my surprise -- both catharsis and a broadening perspective within the space of ten minutes. Well done, gentlemen. Drinks all around.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[While I stand by my comments in terms of modern execution, I am also intrigued by the thoughtful posts regarding the metamorphosis of the word and its implication. Imagine my surprise -- both catharsis and a broadening perspective within the space of ten minutes. Well done, gentlemen. Drinks all around.]</p>
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