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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/06/26/the-5-switches-of-manliness-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-367193</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. This article is so in touch with my feelings on nature, I wish I had written it myself :) Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This article is so in touch with my feelings on nature, I wish I had written it myself :) Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Elias</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/06/26/the-5-switches-of-manliness-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-336425</link>
		<dc:creator>Elias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, John Muir would be proud! A worthy read this be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, John Muir would be proud! A worthy read this be.</p>
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		<title>By: Yousuf Mehmood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yousuf Mehmood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 09:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant piece, I feel like jumping out in to the woods already]]></description>
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		<title>By: Theresa McMurray</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/06/26/the-5-switches-of-manliness-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-156266</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa McMurray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, I read this article and as an OOOOLD woman, I loved it.  I live right across the street from TableRock Lake in Cape Fair, Mo. now, been here just a little over a year. I walk our road to Hwy 76, yes the same one in Branson, we are about 17 miles from Silver Dollar City.  But what I want to convey is, I had a wonderful family, my daddy and brothers were involved in scouting and went to Camp Sunnen, every summer of my childhood we went to Alley Springs for 2 weeks of living in a tent and cooking all we ate, we kids lived in the water from the time we woke till bed time.  I learned early on the value of the outdoors, as a child I attended the Salvation Army Camp Mihaska in Bourbon, MO, we stayed in cabins but was mostly only there at bedtime.  I love walking my road and observing God&#039;s handiwork in the 1.3 miles it takes me from my home to Hwy 76. Sometimes it moves me to tears just realizing how much God loves insignifcant Me to give me all the beauty around me.  Once in a while I am blessed with seeing a fox or a deer, or another little one of God&#039;s critters and I feel renewed every time. I know that I will never tire of this feeling, after 62 years I still feel so moved and blessed.  I think as parents it is our duty to raise our children to love the outdoors, I know I raised mine the same way my folks raised me, every summer we went camping for 2 weeks, didn&#039;t have electric back then, but we had a popup camper, the boys as they aged put up a tent so they didn&#039;t have to be by the old folks, but they too loved the life, they were both in scouting, my youngest made Eagle and my oldest just loved being outside, he didn&#039;t care if he earned any badge.  As a parent I feel I left my boys with a legacy that is so precious, to this day my oldest loves to walk the woods looking for arrowheads and just loving the outdoors.  When he was a Scout he could get a fire going even when an adult could not, what a blessing it is for me to know I gave them something to fullfill them the rest of their life.  Isn&#039;t our God AWESOME for giving us this  beautiful world!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I read this article and as an OOOOLD woman, I loved it.  I live right across the street from TableRock Lake in Cape Fair, Mo. now, been here just a little over a year. I walk our road to Hwy 76, yes the same one in Branson, we are about 17 miles from Silver Dollar City.  But what I want to convey is, I had a wonderful family, my daddy and brothers were involved in scouting and went to Camp Sunnen, every summer of my childhood we went to Alley Springs for 2 weeks of living in a tent and cooking all we ate, we kids lived in the water from the time we woke till bed time.  I learned early on the value of the outdoors, as a child I attended the Salvation Army Camp Mihaska in Bourbon, MO, we stayed in cabins but was mostly only there at bedtime.  I love walking my road and observing God&#8217;s handiwork in the 1.3 miles it takes me from my home to Hwy 76. Sometimes it moves me to tears just realizing how much God loves insignifcant Me to give me all the beauty around me.  Once in a while I am blessed with seeing a fox or a deer, or another little one of God&#8217;s critters and I feel renewed every time. I know that I will never tire of this feeling, after 62 years I still feel so moved and blessed.  I think as parents it is our duty to raise our children to love the outdoors, I know I raised mine the same way my folks raised me, every summer we went camping for 2 weeks, didn&#8217;t have electric back then, but we had a popup camper, the boys as they aged put up a tent so they didn&#8217;t have to be by the old folks, but they too loved the life, they were both in scouting, my youngest made Eagle and my oldest just loved being outside, he didn&#8217;t care if he earned any badge.  As a parent I feel I left my boys with a legacy that is so precious, to this day my oldest loves to walk the woods looking for arrowheads and just loving the outdoors.  When he was a Scout he could get a fire going even when an adult could not, what a blessing it is for me to know I gave them something to fullfill them the rest of their life.  Isn&#8217;t our God AWESOME for giving us this  beautiful world!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas Gaytheist</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/06/26/the-5-switches-of-manliness-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-156146</link>
		<dc:creator>Dallas Gaytheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Cynicism makes a man jaded and saps his ability to experience wonder and amazement…”

I’m going to have to disagree with this, because I think you’ve got the order wrong. Cynical men do not become jaded. Jaded men become bitter. And bitter men become cynical (though not ALL cynical men are bitter, I think). Men become jaded for many reasons, but probably the top two are being hurt by other people (loss of trust) and disappointment in life when it fails to meet our expectations. 

If we’re discussing little-c cynicism here, then it is nothing more than a refusal to be duped by a belief that people are anything less than inherently selfish. And in many ways we are. Political, religious, and social values/beliefs are typically little more than mythologies we embrace to elevate and sooth our egos.  (This does not negate human altruism though, but that’s another topic.) 

A cynic realizes that. 

Cynicism is not the CAUSE, but rather the EFFECT.  Children cannot be cynical because they are too innocent and inexperienced. Life’s experiences teach us the value of cynicism. If you rob me of my cynicism, then you rob me of the fruit of my experiences. This is not to say that ALL experiences lead to cynicism, because they obviously do not. Rather it is that you cannot acquire cynicism without experience first. 

But more to your point, cynicism has everything to do with MAN, and nothing at all to do with NATURE. I think I am a pretty cynical person, but I don’t cease to feel amazement, wonder, and awe with the natural world. In fact, I think some deeply cynical people are MORE drawn to nature because of that cynicism. It is there they find solace. 

I think what you’re hinting at in this blog post could be more accurately described as bitterness in some cases, or perhaps more appropriately as ennui. 

However, I do think we are too detached from the natural world and its processes, but that could be attributed more to industrialization and capitalism than to a “cynical” attitude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Cynicism makes a man jaded and saps his ability to experience wonder and amazement…”</p>
<p>I’m going to have to disagree with this, because I think you’ve got the order wrong. Cynical men do not become jaded. Jaded men become bitter. And bitter men become cynical (though not ALL cynical men are bitter, I think). Men become jaded for many reasons, but probably the top two are being hurt by other people (loss of trust) and disappointment in life when it fails to meet our expectations. </p>
<p>If we’re discussing little-c cynicism here, then it is nothing more than a refusal to be duped by a belief that people are anything less than inherently selfish. And in many ways we are. Political, religious, and social values/beliefs are typically little more than mythologies we embrace to elevate and sooth our egos.  (This does not negate human altruism though, but that’s another topic.) </p>
<p>A cynic realizes that. </p>
<p>Cynicism is not the CAUSE, but rather the EFFECT.  Children cannot be cynical because they are too innocent and inexperienced. Life’s experiences teach us the value of cynicism. If you rob me of my cynicism, then you rob me of the fruit of my experiences. This is not to say that ALL experiences lead to cynicism, because they obviously do not. Rather it is that you cannot acquire cynicism without experience first. </p>
<p>But more to your point, cynicism has everything to do with MAN, and nothing at all to do with NATURE. I think I am a pretty cynical person, but I don’t cease to feel amazement, wonder, and awe with the natural world. In fact, I think some deeply cynical people are MORE drawn to nature because of that cynicism. It is there they find solace. </p>
<p>I think what you’re hinting at in this blog post could be more accurately described as bitterness in some cases, or perhaps more appropriately as ennui. </p>
<p>However, I do think we are too detached from the natural world and its processes, but that could be attributed more to industrialization and capitalism than to a “cynical” attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tim

The picture with the arch is from Arches National Park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim</p>
<p>The picture with the arch is from Arches National Park.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/06/26/the-5-switches-of-manliness-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-155911</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s taken me a week and three tries to read your post. Not because it sucks; quite the opposite. All my life I wanted nothing more than to be an outdoor instructor. When I was 19 that dream came true. When I was 25, I gave up that dream, purposely, to get married. I don&#039;t regret that decision, and I don&#039;t regret the decision to have kids. However, I have struggled, since i left my $48/day job as a mountaineering instructor, to fill the void that was left when I left the woods for an office.

It took me a week and three tries to read this post because the pull of nature on my soul is so strong that the first time I tried to read your post, I began to cry. The second time, I got a bit further, but again I began to cry--can&#039;t cry at work. Can&#039;t read blogs there either, but what folks don&#039;t know won&#039;t hurt them, right? ;)

The third time, I swallowed my feelings and suppressed my tears like a real man [sic], and read all the way through.

I love this series, and I think you&#039;re right on. Thanks.

Best,
Matt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s taken me a week and three tries to read your post. Not because it sucks; quite the opposite. All my life I wanted nothing more than to be an outdoor instructor. When I was 19 that dream came true. When I was 25, I gave up that dream, purposely, to get married. I don&#8217;t regret that decision, and I don&#8217;t regret the decision to have kids. However, I have struggled, since i left my $48/day job as a mountaineering instructor, to fill the void that was left when I left the woods for an office.</p>
<p>It took me a week and three tries to read this post because the pull of nature on my soul is so strong that the first time I tried to read your post, I began to cry. The second time, I got a bit further, but again I began to cry&#8211;can&#8217;t cry at work. Can&#8217;t read blogs there either, but what folks don&#8217;t know won&#8217;t hurt them, right? ;)</p>
<p>The third time, I swallowed my feelings and suppressed my tears like a real man [sic], and read all the way through.</p>
<p>I love this series, and I think you&#8217;re right on. Thanks.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfect timing! I read the first half of this with breakfast before taking off on a camping trip, then finished it up afterward. I&#039;m definitely an outdoorsy guy; camping, mountain biking, kayaking, off-roading, etc.

A word of advice for fathers (I&#039;m not a father... yet, but I have one!) - DON&#039;T BE INTIMIDATED!!! My first camping trip was on the floor of our old van in the parking lot of our apartment complex when I was about 5 years old. It was a start. Later it was over night trips when we&#039;d drive the Mustang up to the local campgrounds.

A 1990 Mustang is not at the top of anyone&#039;s &quot;Adventure Ready Vehicle&quot; list, but we still had a great time. More importantly, it got me outside and I&#039;ve been doing it ever since.

This latest camping trip I just got back from has become a sort of camping/mountain biking/star gazing pilgrimage. This year however, my dad rode his motorcycle down to meet me. We spent quality time mountain biking, laughing, trading stories, and that night he gave me marriage advice around the campfire (My fiancee and I are planning a November wedding). It all has to start somewhere- for me it was an overnight camping trip where my mom waved good night from our living room window.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect timing! I read the first half of this with breakfast before taking off on a camping trip, then finished it up afterward. I&#8217;m definitely an outdoorsy guy; camping, mountain biking, kayaking, off-roading, etc.</p>
<p>A word of advice for fathers (I&#8217;m not a father&#8230; yet, but I have one!) &#8211; DON&#8217;T BE INTIMIDATED!!! My first camping trip was on the floor of our old van in the parking lot of our apartment complex when I was about 5 years old. It was a start. Later it was over night trips when we&#8217;d drive the Mustang up to the local campgrounds.</p>
<p>A 1990 Mustang is not at the top of anyone&#8217;s &#8220;Adventure Ready Vehicle&#8221; list, but we still had a great time. More importantly, it got me outside and I&#8217;ve been doing it ever since.</p>
<p>This latest camping trip I just got back from has become a sort of camping/mountain biking/star gazing pilgrimage. This year however, my dad rode his motorcycle down to meet me. We spent quality time mountain biking, laughing, trading stories, and that night he gave me marriage advice around the campfire (My fiancee and I are planning a November wedding). It all has to start somewhere- for me it was an overnight camping trip where my mom waved good night from our living room window.</p>
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		<title>By: Nataraj Hauser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nataraj Hauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha!  I read this post as I was preparing to head out to the local nude beach for the day.  I spent last week camping at a clothing optional gathering.  Yep, I guess I&#039;m savoring the great outdoors!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  I read this post as I was preparing to head out to the local nude beach for the day.  I spent last week camping at a clothing optional gathering.  Yep, I guess I&#8217;m savoring the great outdoors!</p>
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		<title>By: Abram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article... I am 29, and have had the privilege of living almost all of my life on a farm. I also have the privilege of raising my children in the fields and woods that I grew up running around in. My oldest son just turned 10 years old. And what a difference between the two of us... When I was 10, my dad got me a ruger 10-22, and I would spend my days running around out in the woods with my rifle alone... Experiencing the raw beauty and awe of trees, moss, bugs and nature. The profound respect for the power of of Gods creation, like discovering a 100 year old oak tree that has been shattered by a bolt of lightning. Learning self reliance... Taking a spill down a rocky hill tearing the stuffing out of your jeans and knees, sucking it up and limping the half a mile back home with blood running down to your socks. Knowing which snake to pick up and play with... And which ones NOT to touch. Splitting wood for hours (or at least it seemed like hours! I swear time actualy stood still!)... I will never forget the summer when I turned 14, my older brother got to get a &#039;real&#039; job (meaning he got paid!) and my job was to get up and go out with my grandpa and learn how to use all the farm equipment... tractors, mowers, brush hogs, hay rake, and baler. I wasn&#039;t very happy at the time, but wouldn&#039;t trade my time out in the fields with grandpa for anything. The sun and dirt can wear you out, beat you down and even burn you out. But thank you for this article to remind me to make it a priority to make time to create to experiences for my own children (still on the fence about them running around in the woods alone with guns! I&#039;ll have to work on mommy with that one... Maybe in a couple more years). But it is those times that I had out discovering for myself the secrets of nature that have taught me more about life and death than anything else I have ever experienced. God willing- I can pass those things on to my children. Not just to enrich their hearts and lives, but rather that they would desire to pass them on to their own children. Nothing makes me prouder than watching my 8 and 10 year old stacking firewood. Not because I enjoy making them do chores, but because I know that that&#039;s the kind of things that will engrain them with a real work ethic. It will teach them how to take pride in what they can accomplish with their own two hands. I will never forget the summer my dad taught me how to use the chainsaw... Since that summer I have done all the cutting and trimming. All winter I cut firewood for his house and mine- in that order. I look forward to when my sons are ready for that &#039;passing of the torch&#039; not so I don&#039;t have to work... But so I can experience the pride of knowing my sons are now men. So thanks again for the reminder of the importance of nature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article&#8230; I am 29, and have had the privilege of living almost all of my life on a farm. I also have the privilege of raising my children in the fields and woods that I grew up running around in. My oldest son just turned 10 years old. And what a difference between the two of us&#8230; When I was 10, my dad got me a ruger 10-22, and I would spend my days running around out in the woods with my rifle alone&#8230; Experiencing the raw beauty and awe of trees, moss, bugs and nature. The profound respect for the power of of Gods creation, like discovering a 100 year old oak tree that has been shattered by a bolt of lightning. Learning self reliance&#8230; Taking a spill down a rocky hill tearing the stuffing out of your jeans and knees, sucking it up and limping the half a mile back home with blood running down to your socks. Knowing which snake to pick up and play with&#8230; And which ones NOT to touch. Splitting wood for hours (or at least it seemed like hours! I swear time actualy stood still!)&#8230; I will never forget the summer when I turned 14, my older brother got to get a &#8216;real&#8217; job (meaning he got paid!) and my job was to get up and go out with my grandpa and learn how to use all the farm equipment&#8230; tractors, mowers, brush hogs, hay rake, and baler. I wasn&#8217;t very happy at the time, but wouldn&#8217;t trade my time out in the fields with grandpa for anything. The sun and dirt can wear you out, beat you down and even burn you out. But thank you for this article to remind me to make it a priority to make time to create to experiences for my own children (still on the fence about them running around in the woods alone with guns! I&#8217;ll have to work on mommy with that one&#8230; Maybe in a couple more years). But it is those times that I had out discovering for myself the secrets of nature that have taught me more about life and death than anything else I have ever experienced. God willing- I can pass those things on to my children. Not just to enrich their hearts and lives, but rather that they would desire to pass them on to their own children. Nothing makes me prouder than watching my 8 and 10 year old stacking firewood. Not because I enjoy making them do chores, but because I know that that&#8217;s the kind of things that will engrain them with a real work ethic. It will teach them how to take pride in what they can accomplish with their own two hands. I will never forget the summer my dad taught me how to use the chainsaw&#8230; Since that summer I have done all the cutting and trimming. All winter I cut firewood for his house and mine- in that order. I look forward to when my sons are ready for that &#8216;passing of the torch&#8217; not so I don&#8217;t have to work&#8230; But so I can experience the pride of knowing my sons are now men. So thanks again for the reminder of the importance of nature.</p>
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