Comments on: Classical Rhetoric 101: The Five Canons of Rhetoric – Memory http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/ Men's Interests and Lifestyle Wed, 22 May 2013 02:08:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Marcuni http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-150735 Marcuni Fri, 06 May 2011 21:53:19 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-150735 Interesting comments on Obama rhetoric skills…

Being an immigrant and not being able to vote, always made me apolitical in the US. Since Bush Sr. administration, I never cared about any president speeches on tv. President Obama changed all that for me. His speeches ignited my desire to become a citizen, participate and vote. I’m still straddling the fence with regards to politics but at least I’m awake now!

]]> By: Matt http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148648 Matt Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:22:07 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148648 hey there AOM team

Just wanted to add my voice of thanks to the chorus for the rhetoric series. Brilliant, often overlooked, fascinating and educational.

Have really enjoyed it, and looking forward to the next installment

Matt

]]> By: Wayne http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148563 Wayne Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:37:38 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148563 CinnamonBear:

Just wanted to point out that written Hebrew has no vowel characters, period. They didn’t “leave them out.” Modern Hebrew often includes notation for vowel sound pronunciation (which has also been applied to the Tanakh for ease of use by modern readers and reciters) but they aren’t actual vowel characters, more like adding a comma or a colon to a sentence.

This ambiguity leads to confusion because there are words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently and there is no real way to know the difference. So in many cases it is up to context and the translators best guess (and even then context doesn’t give clues in a few cases.)

]]> By: Luke V http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148397 Luke V Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:11:49 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148397 New to the site but have enjoyed reading the articles so far. This one is another very good article and I took a few things out of it and will start to apply it to my every day life.

I’ve been retaining quotes and facts for a while now but I’ve probably forgotten half. A small notebook and pen around at all times is good for remembering this info as well as other useful information like ones name. I’m horrible with names and will see if this helps.

]]> By: Mark G http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148390 Mark G Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:41:30 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148390 Love this series of articles. Anyone interested in great orators should check out Christopher Hitchens in debate. Astonishing capacity for memory, pulling quote and passages out of the air seemingly at will.

]]> By: rolland carpenter http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148360 rolland carpenter Tue, 19 Apr 2011 03:26:38 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148360 In administrative trials, witnesses often bring in scripts or canned testimony. Boring to listen to! So we order it to be marked as an exhibit and put it in the pile. What is another source of absolute boredom is hearing NPR guests read their statements or supposed comments. Stuff read has no life! But notes are OK in most situations. The speaker can briefly refer to notes without losing his audience or undermining his argument.

]]> By: Steve http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148259 Steve Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:23:19 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148259 The President’s dependence on a teleprompter and his inability to deliver a speech without one was a perfect example. Maybe he should subscribe to AOM and learn something other than how to be a puppet.

]]> By: K Smith http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148167 K Smith Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:17:18 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148167 Our President’s handlers know his use of the teleprompter is an issue. For one of the very first live speeches he made from the White House, instead of using a teleprompter, they put the text of his speech on 2 big screen monitors mounted on the wall at the very back of the room. This allowed them to remove the 2 podium teleprompter screens that are normally seen on camera as he speaks. It made it appear to those watching on live TV that he had memorized the speech.

They know the ability to memorize a speech elevates the authority of a speaker in the mind of the listener.

]]> By: Tsosamotse Marvin Hlabi http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148121 Tsosamotse Marvin Hlabi Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:20:27 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148121 On storing up qoutes etc. Because I had a problem with comprehending phrases used in written communication e.g. Newspapers I googled searched phrases meaning and discovered “Phrase a week” and subscribed to their website ever since. In order to avoid forgetting the weekly phrases that I learned and that I received via weekly email subscription I printed the meanings and filed them at home for storage purposes. What is nice about “Phrase a week” is that the author gives you a detailed history of the phrase and quotes examples were those phrases were used in the past. Every time I have to write speech, I will refer to my phrase file and find phrases I could use for my speeches.

On memorizing speeches etc. I have found that if one uses a, if I can call it that, “question and answer technique” as a key that unlocks every paragraph whereby the speaker starts every paraphraph with question that is followed by pre thought statements/arguments that addresses the problem e.g. Imagine Martin Luther King Jnr or Malcom X asking these questions during his speech: Why are we all gathered here? Where do we come from as a black nation? Why are living in these kind of conditions in America? What do we deserve as a black nation? How to solve the problems in our society? etc. For me this technique is effective in making both the speaker and the audience to remember the speech. When using this technique the audience will identify with you because your speech is formatted in a dialogue format (more like you are having a conversation with your audience) and in this way you also touch their souls.

Excellent article Brett and Kate. Keep it up and Keep it coming.

Regards,

Tsosamotse Marvin Hlabi
South Africa, Johannesburg, Vereeniging

]]> By: Tsosamotse http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-148112 Tsosamotse Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:33:18 +0000 http://artofmanliness.com/2011/04/15/classical-rhetoric-101-the-five-canons-of-rhetoric-memory/#comment-148112 On storing up qoutes etc. Because I had a problem with comprehending phrases in written communication I googled searched phrases meaning and discovered “Phrase a week” and subscribed ever since. In order to avoid forgetting the weekly phrases that I receive via email subscription I print and file for storage purposes. What is nice about “Phrase a week” is that the author gives you a detailed history of the phrase and quotes examples were those phrases were used in the past.

On memorizing speeches etc. I have found that if one uses a, if I can call it that, “question and answer technique” as a key that unlocks every paragraph whereby the speaker starts every paraphraph with question that is followed by pre thought statements that addresses the problem e.g. Imagine Martin Luther King Jnr or Malcom X asking theses questions during his speech: Why are we all gathered here? Where do we come from as a black nation? Why are living in these kind of conditions in America? What do we deserve as a black nation? How to solve the problems in our society? etc. For me this technique is effective in making your audience remember your speech because they can almost identify with you and this way you touch their souls as your speech is formatted in a dialogue format more like you are having a conversation with your audience.

Excellent article Brett and Kate. Keep it up and Keep it coming.

Regards,

Tsosamotse Marvin Hlabi
South Africa, Johannesburg, Vereeniging

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