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		<title>By: Rick Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not get to the Art of Manliness as often as I would like.  Everytime that I do I find articles of great worthiness.  The series on Rhetoric is a prime example and one that has brought me back with a greater frequency.  Perhaps with a better understanding of rhetoric we will have a lesser need for the cool survival skills articles.
Regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not get to the Art of Manliness as often as I would like.  Everytime that I do I find articles of great worthiness.  The series on Rhetoric is a prime example and one that has brought me back with a greater frequency.  Perhaps with a better understanding of rhetoric we will have a lesser need for the cool survival skills articles.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My two cents Brett.......keep the series going! 

Thanks for all you do,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents Brett&#8230;&#8230;.keep the series going! </p>
<p>Thanks for all you do,</p>
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		<title>By: JustinR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustinR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, knowledge like this is gold]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, knowledge like this is gold</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a wedding around the corner and am planning on saying something. This article has provided me with some much needed structure. Thanks, and perfect timing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a wedding around the corner and am planning on saying something. This article has provided me with some much needed structure. Thanks, and perfect timing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tod Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tod Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brett and Kate, Great post in a great series.

Brett, I&#039;d like to comment on your comment. In &quot;new media&quot; I think people tend to only comment on things that they can relate to in the context of their personal history. Things like adventure or humor... &quot;I remember when... happened to me&quot;. Or things they already know and/or love, cooking for example.

In your comment, you stated: &quot;The rhetoric series is a lot of work but doesn’t seem to be as popular as some of the other articles we do, so I wasn’t sure if I should keep going with it.&quot;. I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re counting popularity  by &quot;hits&quot; or &quot;comments&quot;, but if it&#039;s comments, see above. I suspect that most of us aren&#039;t skilled orators (I, myself, didn&#039;t know how to spell rhetoric before you started this series!) so we don&#039;t have the background to comment intellagently. If you&#039;re judging by hits, never fear, we&#039;ll all be referring back to the series over the years. Eventually, all of us are going to have that &quot;uh, oh!&quot; moment that we&#039;ll need to prepare for.

Like our freind Tsosamotse before me, I will be giving a speech at a wedding (this coming April). Not as Best Man, but as the father of the Bride. Maggie is our oldest child and the first to be married, so this is a very important event for both myself and my own bride. Maggie&#039;s dated her fiance for about ten years. They lived with us for several of those years. I find myself in the eviable position of being able to refer to Billy as a very good freind, rather than &quot;just&quot; my son-in-law. I couldn&#039;t think of a better man to accept my daughters hand from my own. Which makes this event even MORE important.

The length of this comment belies the fact that I&#039;m a man of little words, so please undestand that I am very anxious and apprehensive about my speech. This series is invaluable to me, and will be for many others in the future.

Both you and Kate are regularly encouraging and teaching us, I&#039;d like to give a little encouragement back. You guys are awesome! I&#039;d also like to thank you. Not for your hours, efforts, writing or research this time, but just for, well... helping!

Tod]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett and Kate, Great post in a great series.</p>
<p>Brett, I&#8217;d like to comment on your comment. In &#8220;new media&#8221; I think people tend to only comment on things that they can relate to in the context of their personal history. Things like adventure or humor&#8230; &#8220;I remember when&#8230; happened to me&#8221;. Or things they already know and/or love, cooking for example.</p>
<p>In your comment, you stated: &#8220;The rhetoric series is a lot of work but doesn’t seem to be as popular as some of the other articles we do, so I wasn’t sure if I should keep going with it.&#8221;. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re counting popularity  by &#8220;hits&#8221; or &#8220;comments&#8221;, but if it&#8217;s comments, see above. I suspect that most of us aren&#8217;t skilled orators (I, myself, didn&#8217;t know how to spell rhetoric before you started this series!) so we don&#8217;t have the background to comment intellagently. If you&#8217;re judging by hits, never fear, we&#8217;ll all be referring back to the series over the years. Eventually, all of us are going to have that &#8220;uh, oh!&#8221; moment that we&#8217;ll need to prepare for.</p>
<p>Like our freind Tsosamotse before me, I will be giving a speech at a wedding (this coming April). Not as Best Man, but as the father of the Bride. Maggie is our oldest child and the first to be married, so this is a very important event for both myself and my own bride. Maggie&#8217;s dated her fiance for about ten years. They lived with us for several of those years. I find myself in the eviable position of being able to refer to Billy as a very good freind, rather than &#8220;just&#8221; my son-in-law. I couldn&#8217;t think of a better man to accept my daughters hand from my own. Which makes this event even MORE important.</p>
<p>The length of this comment belies the fact that I&#8217;m a man of little words, so please undestand that I am very anxious and apprehensive about my speech. This series is invaluable to me, and will be for many others in the future.</p>
<p>Both you and Kate are regularly encouraging and teaching us, I&#8217;d like to give a little encouragement back. You guys are awesome! I&#8217;d also like to thank you. Not for your hours, efforts, writing or research this time, but just for, well&#8230; helping!</p>
<p>Tod</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favorite references include: 
Booth, Wayne.  1974.  Modern Dogma &amp; the Rhetoric of Assent.  
___________	  1987.  The Harper and Row Rhetoric: Writing As Thinking, Thinking As Writing.
___________    2004.  Rhetoric of Rhetoric: The Quest for Effective Communication.  
Nibley, Hugh W.  1956.  “Victoriosa Loquacitas: The Rise of Rhetoric and the Decline of 
	Everything Else.”  Western Speech 20/2 (Spring): 57-82.  Reprinted in The Ancient State, volume 10 of Nibley’s Colleted Works.  Also online at: 
	http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=76&amp;chapid=952

The following audio lectures with printed transcripts from The Teaching Company are very good:
* Hale, John R.  Art of Public Speaking: Lessons from the Greatest Speeches in History.  Also TTC.
* Hall, James.  Tools of Thinking: Understanding the World Through Experience and Reason. 
* Landon, Brooks.  Building Great Sentences.  
* Zarefsky, David.  Argumentation: The Study of Effective Reasoning, 2nd ed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite references include:<br />
Booth, Wayne.  1974.  Modern Dogma &amp; the Rhetoric of Assent.<br />
___________	  1987.  The Harper and Row Rhetoric: Writing As Thinking, Thinking As Writing.<br />
___________    2004.  Rhetoric of Rhetoric: The Quest for Effective Communication.<br />
Nibley, Hugh W.  1956.  “Victoriosa Loquacitas: The Rise of Rhetoric and the Decline of<br />
	Everything Else.”  Western Speech 20/2 (Spring): 57-82.  Reprinted in The Ancient State, volume 10 of Nibley’s Colleted Works.  Also online at:<br />
	<a href="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=76&#038;chapid=952" rel="nofollow">http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=76&#038;chapid=952</a></p>
<p>The following audio lectures with printed transcripts from The Teaching Company are very good:<br />
* Hale, John R.  Art of Public Speaking: Lessons from the Greatest Speeches in History.  Also TTC.<br />
* Hall, James.  Tools of Thinking: Understanding the World Through Experience and Reason.<br />
* Landon, Brooks.  Building Great Sentences.<br />
* Zarefsky, David.  Argumentation: The Study of Effective Reasoning, 2nd ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lancelot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lancelot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My philosophy teacher as an advice for introduction: say why your speech is of interest to your audience. To give a dumb example, if you&#039;re trying to sell a revolutionary new pencil, start by pointing out problems with regulars pencil and how it is a pain everybody can share. Then go on saying &quot;I have the solution to that&quot;, and carry on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My philosophy teacher as an advice for introduction: say why your speech is of interest to your audience. To give a dumb example, if you&#8217;re trying to sell a revolutionary new pencil, start by pointing out problems with regulars pencil and how it is a pain everybody can share. Then go on saying &#8220;I have the solution to that&#8221;, and carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tsosamotse-

Thanks very much for the comment! The rhetoric series is a lot of work but doesn&#039;t seem to be as popular as some of the other articles we do, so I wasn&#039;t sure if I should keep going with it. So it&#039;s good to know that readers like you are so into it! Thanks for the encouragement. Congrats on giving a great best man&#039;s speech. I was just at a wedding where the best man gave a speech that had everyone cringing in embarrassment for him. It&#039;s awesome that you took the time to read up on the subject and apply what you read.

I do definitely plan on putting this together in an ebook once the series is finished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tsosamotse-</p>
<p>Thanks very much for the comment! The rhetoric series is a lot of work but doesn&#8217;t seem to be as popular as some of the other articles we do, so I wasn&#8217;t sure if I should keep going with it. So it&#8217;s good to know that readers like you are so into it! Thanks for the encouragement. Congrats on giving a great best man&#8217;s speech. I was just at a wedding where the best man gave a speech that had everyone cringing in embarrassment for him. It&#8217;s awesome that you took the time to read up on the subject and apply what you read.</p>
<p>I do definitely plan on putting this together in an ebook once the series is finished.</p>
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		<title>By: Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another good entry in this topic. Well done. 

When thinking about introduction, and indeed structure as a whole, I&#039;ve found Churchill&#039;s advice to be very helpful. I tried to find the reference, but was unable, so I&#039;m quoting from memory: &quot;When you have something important to say, say it. Hammer it home again and again. Hit them with it until their ears ring.&quot; 

The quotes belie the fact that this probably more of a summary and not as poetic as Churchill. Still, it makes the point. And will keep speakers on task and on target and prevent them from getting muddled in schemes and tropes and rhetorical surprises that, while effective in seasoned pens, will in the hands of new speakers be used far too often and will produce an overly restful reaction from the crowd.

Thanks for the hard work on this! Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good entry in this topic. Well done. </p>
<p>When thinking about introduction, and indeed structure as a whole, I&#8217;ve found Churchill&#8217;s advice to be very helpful. I tried to find the reference, but was unable, so I&#8217;m quoting from memory: &#8220;When you have something important to say, say it. Hammer it home again and again. Hit them with it until their ears ring.&#8221; </p>
<p>The quotes belie the fact that this probably more of a summary and not as poetic as Churchill. Still, it makes the point. And will keep speakers on task and on target and prevent them from getting muddled in schemes and tropes and rhetorical surprises that, while effective in seasoned pens, will in the hands of new speakers be used far too often and will produce an overly restful reaction from the crowd.</p>
<p>Thanks for the hard work on this! Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to second the idea of putting this in an ebook. I&#039;ve picked up a couple of your other ebooks in the past and would love to have this in a collected form once you&#039;re finished with the series.

Can&#039;t wait for the next installment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to second the idea of putting this in an ebook. I&#8217;ve picked up a couple of your other ebooks in the past and would love to have this in a collected form once you&#8217;re finished with the series.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the next installment!</p>
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