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	<title>Comments on: Traditional Firestarting-Part II: Fire from Friction</title>
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		<title>By: Tim UK</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/01/18/traditional-firestarting-part-ii-fire-from-friction/comment-page-1/#comment-367925</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is an old post but I have some relevant comments (I hope!).

I am a great fan of AoM and read it from the UK; I work with school groups in a woodland centre over here as a volunteer and fire lighting is my subject. For the bow drill I would suggest using the same wood for the drill AND hearth board; as long as you have the right wood in terms of hardness then the set is very efficient as you get equal wear of both friction surfaces and thus generate the all important combustable dust more quickly.

Secondly, the single most important tip I was told was to set a small shell or indented stone in the bearing block. Crush green leaves into this every time you use it and you have a completely zero friction bearing; when you are learning this method and your stability isn&#039;t perfect then simply trying to overcome the bearing friction can get very tiring.

Great site!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an old post but I have some relevant comments (I hope!).</p>
<p>I am a great fan of AoM and read it from the UK; I work with school groups in a woodland centre over here as a volunteer and fire lighting is my subject. For the bow drill I would suggest using the same wood for the drill AND hearth board; as long as you have the right wood in terms of hardness then the set is very efficient as you get equal wear of both friction surfaces and thus generate the all important combustable dust more quickly.</p>
<p>Secondly, the single most important tip I was told was to set a small shell or indented stone in the bearing block. Crush green leaves into this every time you use it and you have a completely zero friction bearing; when you are learning this method and your stability isn&#8217;t perfect then simply trying to overcome the bearing friction can get very tiring.</p>
<p>Great site!</p>
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		<title>By: SA Rahim</title>
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		<dc:creator>SA Rahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I Really Loved the Content on This page. A Great Effort done by you Brother. Keep It Up. Let people like me know How the Ancient Man Lived on This Earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Really Loved the Content on This page. A Great Effort done by you Brother. Keep It Up. Let people like me know How the Ancient Man Lived on This Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Bean</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/01/18/traditional-firestarting-part-ii-fire-from-friction/comment-page-1/#comment-128833</link>
		<dc:creator>Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I certainly appreciate all the feedback on my foot ware comment. Living in the greater Pacific Northwest, the forest and mountains are ALWAYS extremely damp, regardless of the time of year, so only waterproofed boots have been my choice for long outings lasting more than a couple of days. I concede the point from the writer on below freezing temperatures. Animal skin such as used by Inuit peoples in Alaska, Yukon and Nunavut work very well in the deepest winter months, but then one is walking on ice or snow well below zero C or 15 degrees F .
Thanks for the response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I certainly appreciate all the feedback on my foot ware comment. Living in the greater Pacific Northwest, the forest and mountains are ALWAYS extremely damp, regardless of the time of year, so only waterproofed boots have been my choice for long outings lasting more than a couple of days. I concede the point from the writer on below freezing temperatures. Animal skin such as used by Inuit peoples in Alaska, Yukon and Nunavut work very well in the deepest winter months, but then one is walking on ice or snow well below zero C or 15 degrees F .<br />
Thanks for the response.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Frez-Albrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Frez-Albrecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and on the shoe topic: In the summer I often hike in flipflop sandals on a trail, and normally wear nothing more than a pair of lightweight cross country racing flats for bushwhacking.  I put at least 700 miles (most of it running) on my last pair before I wore through the rubber on the sole.

Granted, I don&#039;t frequent jungles with venomous snakes and bugs the size of my head, but I wholeheartedly agree with the statement &quot;right gear, right place, right time&quot; by Darren above, and for my environment, boots are overkill at least 9 months out of the year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and on the shoe topic: In the summer I often hike in flipflop sandals on a trail, and normally wear nothing more than a pair of lightweight cross country racing flats for bushwhacking.  I put at least 700 miles (most of it running) on my last pair before I wore through the rubber on the sole.</p>
<p>Granted, I don&#8217;t frequent jungles with venomous snakes and bugs the size of my head, but I wholeheartedly agree with the statement &#8220;right gear, right place, right time&#8221; by Darren above, and for my environment, boots are overkill at least 9 months out of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Frez-Albrecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Frez-Albrecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article, and I like that you address the issue of locking your arm against your leg, that&#039;s something that a lot of the classic survival manuals neglect.

I would suggest adding a tidbit about the tinder bundle that you mention.  Maybe just a paragraph about some possible good materials and basic construction.  For someone without any background in the subject, I think including that could make a big difference.

Thanks,
Simon in CT]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, and I like that you address the issue of locking your arm against your leg, that&#8217;s something that a lot of the classic survival manuals neglect.</p>
<p>I would suggest adding a tidbit about the tinder bundle that you mention.  Maybe just a paragraph about some possible good materials and basic construction.  For someone without any background in the subject, I think including that could make a big difference.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Simon in CT</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steger Mukluks are the best cold weather footwear available, period.  I wish I would have researched my boot choice when I bought a pair of lightweight Sorrels for hiking, since I could have purchased Steger arctic mukluks (without the &quot;ribbon&quot;) for about $10 more.

Anyways, another great article.  It is good to challenge one&#039;s self and build a fire without matches or a lighter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steger Mukluks are the best cold weather footwear available, period.  I wish I would have researched my boot choice when I bought a pair of lightweight Sorrels for hiking, since I could have purchased Steger arctic mukluks (without the &#8220;ribbon&#8221;) for about $10 more.</p>
<p>Anyways, another great article.  It is good to challenge one&#8217;s self and build a fire without matches or a lighter.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just so ya know...

hose mukluks have been across the Boundary Waters in winter, showshoeing to the top of fourteeners, and a few dozen other places where they performed quite admirably. No boots have ever kept my feet as warm...none.  The uppers have been replaced at least twice, and it&#039;s probably time to retire them.

By the way, this guy has done okay with them as well...  http://www.willsteger.com/

As I always say, your mileage may vary.  I do wear thicker leather boots if the occasion calls for it, but from November to April I pretty much live in mukluks here in Wisconsin.  I have another pair of unlined mocs I use for canoe tripping -- kneeing with the top of your feet against the bottom of a canoe feels a lot better with a piece of leather there instead of laces and a tongue.  And I have a pair of Bean (no hard feelings) boots for sloppy slurpee snow and bird hunting in the fall.  And a pair of ballet slippers if I want to perform a pas de deux with Mrs. Canoelover.  It&#039;s all about the right gear, right place, right time.

And in the countless days I&#039;ve spent outside over the past 48 years, I&#039;ve only injured my foot once. At age 16  I stepped on a board at a construction site and sent a 16d into my instep...wearing a pair of Red Wings Irish Setters  I didn&#039;t blame the boot, I was being careless.

Y&#039;all walk safe.  DB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so ya know&#8230;</p>
<p>hose mukluks have been across the Boundary Waters in winter, showshoeing to the top of fourteeners, and a few dozen other places where they performed quite admirably. No boots have ever kept my feet as warm&#8230;none.  The uppers have been replaced at least twice, and it&#8217;s probably time to retire them.</p>
<p>By the way, this guy has done okay with them as well&#8230;  <a href="http://www.willsteger.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.willsteger.com/</a></p>
<p>As I always say, your mileage may vary.  I do wear thicker leather boots if the occasion calls for it, but from November to April I pretty much live in mukluks here in Wisconsin.  I have another pair of unlined mocs I use for canoe tripping &#8212; kneeing with the top of your feet against the bottom of a canoe feels a lot better with a piece of leather there instead of laces and a tongue.  And I have a pair of Bean (no hard feelings) boots for sloppy slurpee snow and bird hunting in the fall.  And a pair of ballet slippers if I want to perform a pas de deux with Mrs. Canoelover.  It&#8217;s all about the right gear, right place, right time.</p>
<p>And in the countless days I&#8217;ve spent outside over the past 48 years, I&#8217;ve only injured my foot once. At age 16  I stepped on a board at a construction site and sent a 16d into my instep&#8230;wearing a pair of Red Wings Irish Setters  I didn&#8217;t blame the boot, I was being careless.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all walk safe.  DB</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well written article that combined impeccable style with great practicality.

Thank you, Darren!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written article that combined impeccable style with great practicality.</p>
<p>Thank you, Darren!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Scouts we always used to call it fire from &quot;fiction&quot;..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Scouts we always used to call it fire from &#8220;fiction&#8221;..</p>
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		<title>By: M.J.L. MacFabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.J.L. MacFabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Article was good. I have never had real success with this method yet though I might try to go slower and more steady next time. As to the foot wear comment, I agree. If those were thin leather on the bottom they would not last long. I live in the Yukon and people up here wear something very similar in the winter and even then they really only put them on when it&#039;s below -5 C  other wise they get to wet. The image shows what looks like a thick sole though. If that&#039;s the case they would last a lot longer. but we digress]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Article was good. I have never had real success with this method yet though I might try to go slower and more steady next time. As to the foot wear comment, I agree. If those were thin leather on the bottom they would not last long. I live in the Yukon and people up here wear something very similar in the winter and even then they really only put them on when it&#8217;s below -5 C  other wise they get to wet. The image shows what looks like a thick sole though. If that&#8217;s the case they would last a lot longer. but we digress</p>
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