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	<title>Comments on: More Than Just Finding North: Understanding the Compass</title>
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		<title>By: Ben K</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/07/06/more-than-just-finding-north-understanding-the-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-101373</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 03:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good info and can be a lifesaver. It is indeed strange to think that some people don&#039;t know how to use a compass. It&#039;s kinda like when someone sees me carrying my knife (which I always do) and wonders what I could ever use that for. Or wonders why I would ever keep a set of tools, a sleeping bag and survival kit in the trunk of my car.

I grew up flying, boating, snowmachining and hunting. All using dead reckoning with a compass. We use GPS now but you&#039;d better believe we have our &quot;analog&quot; instruments ready for when the batteries die. I guess growing up in rural AK will do that for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info and can be a lifesaver. It is indeed strange to think that some people don&#8217;t know how to use a compass. It&#8217;s kinda like when someone sees me carrying my knife (which I always do) and wonders what I could ever use that for. Or wonders why I would ever keep a set of tools, a sleeping bag and survival kit in the trunk of my car.</p>
<p>I grew up flying, boating, snowmachining and hunting. All using dead reckoning with a compass. We use GPS now but you&#8217;d better believe we have our &#8220;analog&#8221; instruments ready for when the batteries die. I guess growing up in rural AK will do that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/07/06/more-than-just-finding-north-understanding-the-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-43846</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Martin, that is the highest compliment.  

Re: looking for a compass - a decent outdoor sports store, particularly one oriented toward backpacking, should have a good selection, and a clerk who knows what s/he is talking about.  If you can find a &quot;Recreational Equipment Incorporated&quot; (REI) (&quot;The Co-op&quot;) store near you, that is a great place to go.  But Bass Pro, Scheel&#039;s, Cabella&#039;s, etc. and a host of local backpacking shops will also have what you&#039;re looking for.  

Two other things -- I didn&#039;t mean to badmouth lensatic compasses, only cheap ones.  A  lensatic compass is fine, but IMO takes more skill to use well.  And the good ones can run you a C-note.  You get more bang for your buck with a protractor/baseplate design.  

Second, I said that the compass should have a means of &quot;adjusting&quot; for declination.  I should have said &quot;compensating&quot; rather than &quot;adjusting.&quot;  I recently had a friend use a compass that had a scale on the bottom of the capsule, and you simply placed the North end of the compass over the appropriate mark rather than straight at the &quot;N.&quot;  There&#039;s no adjusting - just compensating.  That does work.  On the other hand, the compasses that have a means of actually adjusting and setting declination sure are convenient.  That&#039;s how it is with my Silva Ranger 15 CL.  But, as I said, unless you&#039;re using a compass professionally, the Silva Ranger is overkill.  Not that I&#039;ll ever part with mine...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Martin, that is the highest compliment.  </p>
<p>Re: looking for a compass &#8211; a decent outdoor sports store, particularly one oriented toward backpacking, should have a good selection, and a clerk who knows what s/he is talking about.  If you can find a &#8220;Recreational Equipment Incorporated&#8221; (REI) (&#8220;The Co-op&#8221;) store near you, that is a great place to go.  But Bass Pro, Scheel&#8217;s, Cabella&#8217;s, etc. and a host of local backpacking shops will also have what you&#8217;re looking for.  </p>
<p>Two other things &#8212; I didn&#8217;t mean to badmouth lensatic compasses, only cheap ones.  A  lensatic compass is fine, but IMO takes more skill to use well.  And the good ones can run you a C-note.  You get more bang for your buck with a protractor/baseplate design.  </p>
<p>Second, I said that the compass should have a means of &#8220;adjusting&#8221; for declination.  I should have said &#8220;compensating&#8221; rather than &#8220;adjusting.&#8221;  I recently had a friend use a compass that had a scale on the bottom of the capsule, and you simply placed the North end of the compass over the appropriate mark rather than straight at the &#8220;N.&#8221;  There&#8217;s no adjusting &#8211; just compensating.  That does work.  On the other hand, the compasses that have a means of actually adjusting and setting declination sure are convenient.  That&#8217;s how it is with my Silva Ranger 15 CL.  But, as I said, unless you&#8217;re using a compass professionally, the Silva Ranger is overkill.  Not that I&#8217;ll ever part with mine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/07/06/more-than-just-finding-north-understanding-the-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-41983</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THanks Dave.

Every article always has one guy add a comment that send me into action. Your comment is the one for the compass article.

I will get the baseplate/protractor compass. Not sure where but will look around.  This article and your comment was helpful I know nothing about this but this may come in handy one day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THanks Dave.</p>
<p>Every article always has one guy add a comment that send me into action. Your comment is the one for the compass article.</p>
<p>I will get the baseplate/protractor compass. Not sure where but will look around.  This article and your comment was helpful I know nothing about this but this may come in handy one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hutto</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/07/06/more-than-just-finding-north-understanding-the-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-36564</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Hutto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey love this article. I came across another forgotten navigation tool that can do much more than a compass and is just as invaluable if you have proper knowledge of its functions it is called an Astrolabe. The Astrolabe is very cool and makes being without electricity or clocks a breeze, I believe that the U.S. Navy still uses it in their basic training.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey love this article. I came across another forgotten navigation tool that can do much more than a compass and is just as invaluable if you have proper knowledge of its functions it is called an Astrolabe. The Astrolabe is very cool and makes being without electricity or clocks a breeze, I believe that the U.S. Navy still uses it in their basic training.</p>
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		<title>By: zombie</title>
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		<dc:creator>zombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I reach the trail, I only have two possible ways home]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I reach the trail, I only have two possible ways home</p>
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		<title>By: Cobby</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/07/06/more-than-just-finding-north-understanding-the-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-36291</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a site that provides declination from a zip code:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/Declination.jsp]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a site that provides declination from a zip code:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/Declination.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomagmodels/Declination.jsp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one thing I like about this site... it makes me think there is still hope.  Just about all the skills and knowledge they share in here are things I think my generation is lacking... and therefor the one under me is lacking even more in!  I think they said it right when they refered to my grandfathers generation from WWII as the last grgeat generation.  They knew how to do this... somehow along the way, it has become a rare art for a man to be a man and not need GPS or to call a fix it company to do his work.. and dont even get me on how folks raise kids these days!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing I like about this site&#8230; it makes me think there is still hope.  Just about all the skills and knowledge they share in here are things I think my generation is lacking&#8230; and therefor the one under me is lacking even more in!  I think they said it right when they refered to my grandfathers generation from WWII as the last grgeat generation.  They knew how to do this&#8230; somehow along the way, it has become a rare art for a man to be a man and not need GPS or to call a fix it company to do his work.. and dont even get me on how folks raise kids these days!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.artofmanliness.com/2009/07/06/more-than-just-finding-north-understanding-the-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-35732</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The baseplate compass shown at top, also called a &quot;protractor&quot; compass, is a Silva.  Brunton makes one that&#039;s almost identical, and I&#039;m sure other manufacturers of quality compasses, do, too.  The beautiful compass in the top picture is called a box compass.  You won&#039;t even find them for sale anymore.  I&#039;ve used all three types, and a few more, extensively.  

I recommend the baseplate/protractor compass over the lensatic for a beginner.  I use a Silva Ranger Model 15, far more compass than you&#039;ll need unless you&#039;re doing professional work.  It&#039;s about $50, and it&#039;s deadly accurate.  For most purposes, you can get a good, liquid-damped baseplate/protractor compass for under $15.  Just make sure that it has some means of adjusting for declination.  I recommend you go to a good outdoor store that specializes in backpacking, etc.  I do not recommend the cheap lensatic compasses that you can find for, oh, $10 or so.  They&#039;re not worth it.

I can&#039;t emphasize enough, though, the importance of magnetic declination.  I&#039;m out west, and the declination in my area is about 15° East -- enough to throw you waaay off, and get you into some deep doo doo.  But once you understand it, it&#039;s easy to handle.  In some places in the Pacific Northwest it can be 20° or more.  

A compass does one thing that no GPS receiver can do.  With a compass you can determine where something is without going there, by triangulation.  GPS&#039;s are cool.  But I never go into the woods, or backpacking, or anything like it, without my compass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The baseplate compass shown at top, also called a &#8220;protractor&#8221; compass, is a Silva.  Brunton makes one that&#8217;s almost identical, and I&#8217;m sure other manufacturers of quality compasses, do, too.  The beautiful compass in the top picture is called a box compass.  You won&#8217;t even find them for sale anymore.  I&#8217;ve used all three types, and a few more, extensively.  </p>
<p>I recommend the baseplate/protractor compass over the lensatic for a beginner.  I use a Silva Ranger Model 15, far more compass than you&#8217;ll need unless you&#8217;re doing professional work.  It&#8217;s about $50, and it&#8217;s deadly accurate.  For most purposes, you can get a good, liquid-damped baseplate/protractor compass for under $15.  Just make sure that it has some means of adjusting for declination.  I recommend you go to a good outdoor store that specializes in backpacking, etc.  I do not recommend the cheap lensatic compasses that you can find for, oh, $10 or so.  They&#8217;re not worth it.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t emphasize enough, though, the importance of magnetic declination.  I&#8217;m out west, and the declination in my area is about 15° East &#8212; enough to throw you waaay off, and get you into some deep doo doo.  But once you understand it, it&#8217;s easy to handle.  In some places in the Pacific Northwest it can be 20° or more.  </p>
<p>A compass does one thing that no GPS receiver can do.  With a compass you can determine where something is without going there, by triangulation.  GPS&#8217;s are cool.  But I never go into the woods, or backpacking, or anything like it, without my compass.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just returned from an 11 day trek through northern NM,  Let me tell you, if we didnt have a compass, we would have been lost on dat 1.  We were using the basic base plate compass though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just returned from an 11 day trek through northern NM,  Let me tell you, if we didnt have a compass, we would have been lost on dat 1.  We were using the basic base plate compass though.</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
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		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading Michael T&#039;s post reminded me of my father and grand father.  They always had a water compass mounted to the windshield of their cars.  They are so much better than the digital ones that come in cars.  You can get an exact bearing.  I had one in my first car but since buying a new one, I have not had one yet.  I think I will buy one today.  My dad is so fanatical about these things that he took his altimeter from his first plane and built a mount that would replace the ash tray in his car.  It was the coolest thing ever.  We could see the barometric pressure, the altitude and the bearing.  It was an old school GPS!  LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading Michael T&#8217;s post reminded me of my father and grand father.  They always had a water compass mounted to the windshield of their cars.  They are so much better than the digital ones that come in cars.  You can get an exact bearing.  I had one in my first car but since buying a new one, I have not had one yet.  I think I will buy one today.  My dad is so fanatical about these things that he took his altimeter from his first plane and built a mount that would replace the ash tray in his car.  It was the coolest thing ever.  We could see the barometric pressure, the altitude and the bearing.  It was an old school GPS!  LOL</p>
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