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	<title>Comments on: 30 Days to a Better Man Day 7: Reconnect with an Old Friend</title>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really glad this was on the list. I had a hard time of thinking of someone I&#039;ve lost a connection with (without a good reason) and could only decide on one. And when I opened that door up again I was able to see how welcome it was from that individual as well. Very cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad this was on the list. I had a hard time of thinking of someone I&#8217;ve lost a connection with (without a good reason) and could only decide on one. And when I opened that door up again I was able to see how welcome it was from that individual as well. Very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Christiansne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Christiansne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This task was a pretty good reminder of how somtimes I take my eye off the ball and not pay attention to those who have helped my kids or me or my wife in a possitive way. I wrote a letter to a wresting coach that I had work with my 3 kids during the off season over a 2 year period, over this time we became very close. He is a tremendous wrestler and we did not realize it at the time what a great influence on my kids he was . He is 23 and in the hall of fame at our local college with a degree in fire science , so his chosen career path was to be a firefighter but in California that is a really tuff to do. So he joined the Army and has since gone to Ranger school and in training to be a green beret. We have not been in touch but a couple of times since he left . This was the perfect thing to  do for me so I wrote him a letter to see how things are going and to apologize for not keeping up with him .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This task was a pretty good reminder of how somtimes I take my eye off the ball and not pay attention to those who have helped my kids or me or my wife in a possitive way. I wrote a letter to a wresting coach that I had work with my 3 kids during the off season over a 2 year period, over this time we became very close. He is a tremendous wrestler and we did not realize it at the time what a great influence on my kids he was . He is 23 and in the hall of fame at our local college with a degree in fire science , so his chosen career path was to be a firefighter but in California that is a really tuff to do. So he joined the Army and has since gone to Ranger school and in training to be a green beret. We have not been in touch but a couple of times since he left . This was the perfect thing to  do for me so I wrote him a letter to see how things are going and to apologize for not keeping up with him .</p>
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		<title>By: A reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>A reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would suggest to read the Classics. Fundamental are the works of Aristotle and Cicero. The latter in particular wrote an essay On Friendship. 

I also would suggest not to be to eager to cutting clear bounderies between hetero or homo. There is a component of homoeroticism in most friendships among young person (admiration for the strongest, the cleverest, the winner etc). This does not entail being homosexual or adopting a &quot;gay&quot; life-style ( a construction of middle class white anglos: In many cultures male friends walk hand in hand, without being necessarily homosexuals.) 

On the other hand, there is a lot of homoerotic complicity in two friends that chase women together, and even more when they share the same woman in bed. In the country I come from, sharing a woman is meant to reinforce the male to male friendship...

Probably in the USA in general people should train themselves in seeking more the spirtual component of life, and therefore see friendship not as a way &quot;to do things together&quot;, but a way &quot;to feel together&quot;. After all, the world sympathy is from ancient Greek &quot;to feel together&quot; (sin + pathos)...This is a more general discourse that involves family relation as well. But the wise man is the rested man. And most Americans work too much, or in too stressful conditions, to have the possibility to really enjoy the leisure of friendship, that requires time, dedication and sense of duty (sense of duty means in this case: to do things that one does not always like, and doing them for the sake of keeping a good friend). A friend is not a toy. He is someone we can confront too, We can even quarrell with a friend, but if there is a core of affection, common values, and patience, the friendship remain.
The subject is huge, but huge is also the bibliography...Enjoy nice readings...and forgive my typos, I am not a native speaker]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest to read the Classics. Fundamental are the works of Aristotle and Cicero. The latter in particular wrote an essay On Friendship. </p>
<p>I also would suggest not to be to eager to cutting clear bounderies between hetero or homo. There is a component of homoeroticism in most friendships among young person (admiration for the strongest, the cleverest, the winner etc). This does not entail being homosexual or adopting a &#8220;gay&#8221; life-style ( a construction of middle class white anglos: In many cultures male friends walk hand in hand, without being necessarily homosexuals.) </p>
<p>On the other hand, there is a lot of homoerotic complicity in two friends that chase women together, and even more when they share the same woman in bed. In the country I come from, sharing a woman is meant to reinforce the male to male friendship&#8230;</p>
<p>Probably in the USA in general people should train themselves in seeking more the spirtual component of life, and therefore see friendship not as a way &#8220;to do things together&#8221;, but a way &#8220;to feel together&#8221;. After all, the world sympathy is from ancient Greek &#8220;to feel together&#8221; (sin + pathos)&#8230;This is a more general discourse that involves family relation as well. But the wise man is the rested man. And most Americans work too much, or in too stressful conditions, to have the possibility to really enjoy the leisure of friendship, that requires time, dedication and sense of duty (sense of duty means in this case: to do things that one does not always like, and doing them for the sake of keeping a good friend). A friend is not a toy. He is someone we can confront too, We can even quarrell with a friend, but if there is a core of affection, common values, and patience, the friendship remain.<br />
The subject is huge, but huge is also the bibliography&#8230;Enjoy nice readings&#8230;and forgive my typos, I am not a native speaker</p>
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		<title>By: Maxwell Jump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxwell Jump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, letter writing is a two-way street.  I&#039;ve found that most people don&#039;t respond to letters/emails very often, and if they do, it&#039;s a short note in response.  So, I&#039;ve pretty much given up.  &#039;Cept for mom!  lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, letter writing is a two-way street.  I&#8217;ve found that most people don&#8217;t respond to letters/emails very often, and if they do, it&#8217;s a short note in response.  So, I&#8217;ve pretty much given up.  &#8216;Cept for mom!  lol</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hachey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Hachey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just mailed a letter to my best friend in high school (haven&#039;t done that in years!). Hopefully I found the right address.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just mailed a letter to my best friend in high school (haven&#8217;t done that in years!). Hopefully I found the right address.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article, sorry I&#039;m joining this late, but I&#039;m just discovering this site.

One thing I&#039;m noticing on the site is this automatic linkage of &quot;manliness&quot; with strict heterosexuality, which I just cannot accept.  As a gay man myself, I understand this linkage, but in the modern era it just seems to be artificial and limiting.  Indeed, this article refers to &quot;the fear of being called a homo&quot; as a major factor in heterosexual men not connecting with other men in honest friendship.  Such a sad state of affairs, but hopefully one that is starting to change.  I have several very strong, personally important friendships with heterosexual men (in fact, one straight friend made me godfather to his two sons!) and these friendships are based on shared experience, trust, good humor, and simply being there when a friend needed a helping hand or good right arm.  Trust, loyalty, honesty, judgment, discretion...these are not exclusively heterosexual traits.  I&#039;d argue they&#039;re traits found in all the best of HUMAN friendships.  Rather than focusing on what a person does in bed, maybe the better course is to judge a man by his actions, temperament, and individual qualities.  Seems to me that any man can find the friends he needs if he just looks around with honesty and openness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, sorry I&#8217;m joining this late, but I&#8217;m just discovering this site.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m noticing on the site is this automatic linkage of &#8220;manliness&#8221; with strict heterosexuality, which I just cannot accept.  As a gay man myself, I understand this linkage, but in the modern era it just seems to be artificial and limiting.  Indeed, this article refers to &#8220;the fear of being called a homo&#8221; as a major factor in heterosexual men not connecting with other men in honest friendship.  Such a sad state of affairs, but hopefully one that is starting to change.  I have several very strong, personally important friendships with heterosexual men (in fact, one straight friend made me godfather to his two sons!) and these friendships are based on shared experience, trust, good humor, and simply being there when a friend needed a helping hand or good right arm.  Trust, loyalty, honesty, judgment, discretion&#8230;these are not exclusively heterosexual traits.  I&#8217;d argue they&#8217;re traits found in all the best of HUMAN friendships.  Rather than focusing on what a person does in bed, maybe the better course is to judge a man by his actions, temperament, and individual qualities.  Seems to me that any man can find the friends he needs if he just looks around with honesty and openness.</p>
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		<title>By: elclinto</title>
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		<dc:creator>elclinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just started going through the challenge, September 1st and it has rocked my world for the better. I&#039;ve been posting my thoughts daily here: http://facebook.com/elclinto.

Per today&#039;s topic, my family and I just moved cross country to reconnect with old friends. 

Thanks to everyone who contributes here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started going through the challenge, September 1st and it has rocked my world for the better. I&#8217;ve been posting my thoughts daily here: <a href="http://facebook.com/elclinto" rel="nofollow">http://facebook.com/elclinto</a>.</p>
<p>Per today&#8217;s topic, my family and I just moved cross country to reconnect with old friends. </p>
<p>Thanks to everyone who contributes here.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jefferson betrayed Adams; many years later, Adams was cajoled into reaching out to his friend-turned-enemy. Adams was a self-important man, yet was able to show enough graciousness and forgiveness to extend his hand to someone who had bitten it.

Of the two, Adams was the better man--and woefully underappreciated and unknown in our modern day. A good start is the HBO miniseries about him (available through Netflix).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jefferson betrayed Adams; many years later, Adams was cajoled into reaching out to his friend-turned-enemy. Adams was a self-important man, yet was able to show enough graciousness and forgiveness to extend his hand to someone who had bitten it.</p>
<p>Of the two, Adams was the better man&#8211;and woefully underappreciated and unknown in our modern day. A good start is the HBO miniseries about him (available through Netflix).</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About Adams and Jefferson: they wrote those 158 letters (a remarkable achievement in and of itself) in the last 14 years of their lives, after they had conciliated following their political fall out with each other.  In doing so they each exhibited a great humbleness and forgiveness.  Really an inspiring friendship among men and an example that we should attempt to follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Adams and Jefferson: they wrote those 158 letters (a remarkable achievement in and of itself) in the last 14 years of their lives, after they had conciliated following their political fall out with each other.  In doing so they each exhibited a great humbleness and forgiveness.  Really an inspiring friendship among men and an example that we should attempt to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Fraz-

I think the comparison between Facebook and the old calling card is pretty right on, and a great observation. Because you used to leave your calling card and then it was up to the person as to whether they wanted to make contact with you and have you visit. Although these days, sometimes people &quot;friend&quot; you on Facebook with no intention of initiating a deeper relationship, which with the calling card, would have been a real breach of etiquette.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fraz-</p>
<p>I think the comparison between Facebook and the old calling card is pretty right on, and a great observation. Because you used to leave your calling card and then it was up to the person as to whether they wanted to make contact with you and have you visit. Although these days, sometimes people &#8220;friend&#8221; you on Facebook with no intention of initiating a deeper relationship, which with the calling card, would have been a real breach of etiquette.</p>
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