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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a glaring problem with your analysis, Seth: antidepressants do not survive placebo controlled trials. Furthermore, the whole neurotransmitter/depression vehicle is a jalopy, a bucket of bolts, a basket case. &quot;Blaming the Brain&quot;, by Valenstein, is a good book to start the disabusing with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a glaring problem with your analysis, Seth: antidepressants do not survive placebo controlled trials. Furthermore, the whole neurotransmitter/depression vehicle is a jalopy, a bucket of bolts, a basket case. &#8220;Blaming the Brain&#8221;, by Valenstein, is a good book to start the disabusing with.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking as someone who&#039;s actually taken some psychology classes: if a person is &quot;balled up in the fetal position and incapable of functioning&quot;, then they should have been on meds a long time ago. Socializing might help someone who&#039;s simply stuck in a rut, but if that doesn&#039;t help then it&#039;s time to see a psychologist. Not doing so is how people end up with treatment-resistant depression - they wait so long to get help and in the meantime their brains get chemically &quot;hardwired&quot; into having these depressive and self-defeating thought pattens that are difficult to shake off.

I&#039;m sure there are lots of people on medication who don&#039;t need to be, but I&#039;ve met a lot more people not on medication who probably should have been, and it&#039;s precisely because of the dismissive attitude that so many people have toward mental illness - there&#039;s no shame in getting a cast for a broken leg or taking insulin if you have diabetes, but if you take a pill to help with depression then people assume you&#039;re lazy, weak, or making it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as someone who&#8217;s actually taken some psychology classes: if a person is &#8220;balled up in the fetal position and incapable of functioning&#8221;, then they should have been on meds a long time ago. Socializing might help someone who&#8217;s simply stuck in a rut, but if that doesn&#8217;t help then it&#8217;s time to see a psychologist. Not doing so is how people end up with treatment-resistant depression &#8211; they wait so long to get help and in the meantime their brains get chemically &#8220;hardwired&#8221; into having these depressive and self-defeating thought pattens that are difficult to shake off.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are lots of people on medication who don&#8217;t need to be, but I&#8217;ve met a lot more people not on medication who probably should have been, and it&#8217;s precisely because of the dismissive attitude that so many people have toward mental illness &#8211; there&#8217;s no shame in getting a cast for a broken leg or taking insulin if you have diabetes, but if you take a pill to help with depression then people assume you&#8217;re lazy, weak, or making it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice advice. Just got me motivated to do another guys night out with two of my best friends from high school, good buddy from work, father in law and wife&#039;s uncle. All men that certainly have added to my life the last few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice advice. Just got me motivated to do another guys night out with two of my best friends from high school, good buddy from work, father in law and wife&#8217;s uncle. All men that certainly have added to my life the last few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Phililp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phililp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For once I fully agree with Wayne. He needs to be part of something bigger, have a strong group of peers to be part of. Join a softball team, hit the gym, go golfing etc. I don&#039;t think &quot;masculine energy&quot; is the solution for everything, but having a strong core of friends is good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For once I fully agree with Wayne. He needs to be part of something bigger, have a strong group of peers to be part of. Join a softball team, hit the gym, go golfing etc. I don&#8217;t think &#8220;masculine energy&#8221; is the solution for everything, but having a strong core of friends is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Daetan Bayar Huck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daetan Bayar Huck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I strongly agree with Wayne&#039;s suggestion that the man in question reconnect with his male companions. In my experience, forming close bonds with men has bettered my relationships with BOTH sexes!

Before I was in high school, I was very socially awkward around women my age and going into high school I focused very intently on my relationships with my female peers. In the end, relationships (casual and romantic) became natural and easy for me, but I neglected my relationships with men -- even after becoming a fraternity man in college.

In my sophomore year, I was plagued by a depression that I thought was attributed to Seasonal Affective Disorder and I slowly withdrew from the social sphere of my life. Thankfully, I was withdrawing directly into the welcoming arms of my fraternity brother with whom I lived. Quickly (unexpectedly), I began to feel more vibrant, more aware, and more empowered.

It took me a long time before I formed relationships with men again, but when I reconnected with my biological brother and fraternity brothers I felt much more content and I felt whole again. And it wasn&#039;t until I read an Art of Manliness article that I consciously realized that I had been missing the essential male bonding.

Try re-connecting with male relatives, forming friendships with co-workers, and pals you meet on the street. Manliness and manly activities are gathering points for males across the bounds of religion, politics, and identity!

David&#039;s comment that the &quot;[key] is finding a group of men who understand that manliness and tender-heartedness are not mutually exclusive - without them slipping into sissified nancyness&quot; is spot on! Hahah, &quot;sissified manliness!&quot; I&#039;m going to remember that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree with Wayne&#8217;s suggestion that the man in question reconnect with his male companions. In my experience, forming close bonds with men has bettered my relationships with BOTH sexes!</p>
<p>Before I was in high school, I was very socially awkward around women my age and going into high school I focused very intently on my relationships with my female peers. In the end, relationships (casual and romantic) became natural and easy for me, but I neglected my relationships with men &#8212; even after becoming a fraternity man in college.</p>
<p>In my sophomore year, I was plagued by a depression that I thought was attributed to Seasonal Affective Disorder and I slowly withdrew from the social sphere of my life. Thankfully, I was withdrawing directly into the welcoming arms of my fraternity brother with whom I lived. Quickly (unexpectedly), I began to feel more vibrant, more aware, and more empowered.</p>
<p>It took me a long time before I formed relationships with men again, but when I reconnected with my biological brother and fraternity brothers I felt much more content and I felt whole again. And it wasn&#8217;t until I read an Art of Manliness article that I consciously realized that I had been missing the essential male bonding.</p>
<p>Try re-connecting with male relatives, forming friendships with co-workers, and pals you meet on the street. Manliness and manly activities are gathering points for males across the bounds of religion, politics, and identity!</p>
<p>David&#8217;s comment that the &#8220;[key] is finding a group of men who understand that manliness and tender-heartedness are not mutually exclusive &#8211; without them slipping into sissified nancyness&#8221; is spot on! Hahah, &#8220;sissified manliness!&#8221; I&#8217;m going to remember that!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 07:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I joined the Freemasons last year and I think it provides a great way for men to be men and help each other lead better lives. There&#039;s an emphasis on charity, brotherhood, virtue and leadership that I don&#039;t think you get in many other places in the modern world. Most of the guys there are your grandpa&#039;s age, but there are a few younger men now coming up in the ranks and hopefully today&#039;s lost generations will see it as a way to become men again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined the Freemasons last year and I think it provides a great way for men to be men and help each other lead better lives. There&#8217;s an emphasis on charity, brotherhood, virtue and leadership that I don&#8217;t think you get in many other places in the modern world. Most of the guys there are your grandpa&#8217;s age, but there are a few younger men now coming up in the ranks and hopefully today&#8217;s lost generations will see it as a way to become men again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 07:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m completely with the writer&#039;s opinion on pill taking, and I&#039;m glad it was mentioned, but I&#039;m apparently going to be the first non-spam response to speak against the answer given on the whole.  I&#039;m not saying the advice was wrong - it&#039;s something I believe is very true in every aspect, as is also the case with the many comments.  What I&#039;m here to question, however, is the singularity of the answer.

If this was a question submitted by a real person, than why is the answer so absolute in seemingly knowing what the problem is?  The question does not mention male relationships at all, and the fella may very well have great male relationships.  There are number of factors that help form a man, and a number of other factors that make him feel fulfilled - God, family, children, a wife, responsibility, artistic expression, athletic accomplishments, a social duty, etc..  Perhaps he has no strong male relationships in his life, it is of course a possibility.  Perhaps, though, it is something else.  He once was passionate about life, as he states, yet it makes sense to me that by this point in his life he could simply be worn down from an ongoing unsatisfactory existence.  A woman isn&#039;t always the answer for someone&#039;s unhappiness, but by age 42, it certainly shouldn&#039;t be ruled out.

I can give a personal account for this, as well.  Since before I can remember, I have related and connected better with gals than guys.  I have guy friends, and I wouldn&#039;t trade those relationships for anything in the world.  Still, though, I truly value the friendships I can form with women.  They are different.  I&#039;m far from the average guy, and I have always been able to relate much easier with women than most men.  Too often I hear comments that seem to proliferate the idea that somebody needs one sex more than the other, while I beg to remind people that while male relationships are sometimes overlooked and are very important, it is easy to stray too far in one direction to imagine that this is the key to problems.  By segregating the sexes in this way, I think it can be detrimental in some cases.  Men are different than women, and vice versa.  I&#039;m no unisex-promoting feminist, however we are all people - and I would much prefer a strong relationship with a person with whom I connected, than someone I didn&#039;t.  So, in my case, more often than not this is going to be with a woman.  I realize I&#039;m in the minority, and again.. I do have a couple of great male friends, my best friends, but this is still just part of one potential answer to the original question posed.

So, again, I think the answer was very true in everything said - it just sadly omitted the chance to touch on anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m completely with the writer&#8217;s opinion on pill taking, and I&#8217;m glad it was mentioned, but I&#8217;m apparently going to be the first non-spam response to speak against the answer given on the whole.  I&#8217;m not saying the advice was wrong &#8211; it&#8217;s something I believe is very true in every aspect, as is also the case with the many comments.  What I&#8217;m here to question, however, is the singularity of the answer.</p>
<p>If this was a question submitted by a real person, than why is the answer so absolute in seemingly knowing what the problem is?  The question does not mention male relationships at all, and the fella may very well have great male relationships.  There are number of factors that help form a man, and a number of other factors that make him feel fulfilled &#8211; God, family, children, a wife, responsibility, artistic expression, athletic accomplishments, a social duty, etc..  Perhaps he has no strong male relationships in his life, it is of course a possibility.  Perhaps, though, it is something else.  He once was passionate about life, as he states, yet it makes sense to me that by this point in his life he could simply be worn down from an ongoing unsatisfactory existence.  A woman isn&#8217;t always the answer for someone&#8217;s unhappiness, but by age 42, it certainly shouldn&#8217;t be ruled out.</p>
<p>I can give a personal account for this, as well.  Since before I can remember, I have related and connected better with gals than guys.  I have guy friends, and I wouldn&#8217;t trade those relationships for anything in the world.  Still, though, I truly value the friendships I can form with women.  They are different.  I&#8217;m far from the average guy, and I have always been able to relate much easier with women than most men.  Too often I hear comments that seem to proliferate the idea that somebody needs one sex more than the other, while I beg to remind people that while male relationships are sometimes overlooked and are very important, it is easy to stray too far in one direction to imagine that this is the key to problems.  By segregating the sexes in this way, I think it can be detrimental in some cases.  Men are different than women, and vice versa.  I&#8217;m no unisex-promoting feminist, however we are all people &#8211; and I would much prefer a strong relationship with a person with whom I connected, than someone I didn&#8217;t.  So, in my case, more often than not this is going to be with a woman.  I realize I&#8217;m in the minority, and again.. I do have a couple of great male friends, my best friends, but this is still just part of one potential answer to the original question posed.</p>
<p>So, again, I think the answer was very true in everything said &#8211; it just sadly omitted the chance to touch on anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Runandbike10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Runandbike10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 22:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article. It&#039;s hard to find  websites out there that offer this kind of forum. Maybe I&#039;m just not looking hard enough.
Anyway, it&#039;s tough finding good guy friends nowadays. I&#039;m in college and you&#039;d think it would be easy. I think maybe I&#039;m a little bogged down with all my school work, but it would be great to find a good group of guys that actually stands for something more than just your &quot;typical&quot; go out to the bar and drink. It&#039;s alright, though, maybe there&#039;s more variety when I get out into the work force!!

Thanks for the post though! I&#039;m always checkin&#039; back for more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. It&#8217;s hard to find  websites out there that offer this kind of forum. Maybe I&#8217;m just not looking hard enough.<br />
Anyway, it&#8217;s tough finding good guy friends nowadays. I&#8217;m in college and you&#8217;d think it would be easy. I think maybe I&#8217;m a little bogged down with all my school work, but it would be great to find a good group of guys that actually stands for something more than just your &#8220;typical&#8221; go out to the bar and drink. It&#8217;s alright, though, maybe there&#8217;s more variety when I get out into the work force!!</p>
<p>Thanks for the post though! I&#8217;m always checkin&#8217; back for more.</p>
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		<title>By: lando</title>
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		<dc:creator>lando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article. I must say that being  somewhat of an introvert I tend to avoid such social interactions. But I do remember at some point in my life where a true male bondship with a group of friends was both appreciated and rewarding . But I have also made the mistake in the past of picking friends who were poisonous to my character. In such that excessive drinking and skirt chasing greatly mixed in with vulgarity and obsceanities was the order of the day.
I have pretty much given up trying to locate like minded inviduals and am content to find wholesome hobbies and activities to pass my time. But to those who have a core group of like minded friends who can both cultivate and soothe the mind as well as the body, then cheers to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I must say that being  somewhat of an introvert I tend to avoid such social interactions. But I do remember at some point in my life where a true male bondship with a group of friends was both appreciated and rewarding . But I have also made the mistake in the past of picking friends who were poisonous to my character. In such that excessive drinking and skirt chasing greatly mixed in with vulgarity and obsceanities was the order of the day.<br />
I have pretty much given up trying to locate like minded inviduals and am content to find wholesome hobbies and activities to pass my time. But to those who have a core group of like minded friends who can both cultivate and soothe the mind as well as the body, then cheers to you.</p>
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		<title>By: canyon289</title>
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		<dc:creator>canyon289</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 05:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I truly wish I could be a part of a group of males like this but the problem lies in the fact that girls manage to tear it apart.
From my limited experience in college whenever a group of guys gets together the bonds are always broken by whatever attractive female that notices a bunch of guys are hanging out. Either the girl makes herself a part of the group or another guy introduces her in. And the worst part is none of the guys can just take the fall if they lose the girl. Most of them aren&#039;t good sports and tear the group apart because they are angry that they themselves couldn&#039;t get the female.
Did any of you have a similar experience and did this change as your peers got older?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly wish I could be a part of a group of males like this but the problem lies in the fact that girls manage to tear it apart.<br />
From my limited experience in college whenever a group of guys gets together the bonds are always broken by whatever attractive female that notices a bunch of guys are hanging out. Either the girl makes herself a part of the group or another guy introduces her in. And the worst part is none of the guys can just take the fall if they lose the girl. Most of them aren&#8217;t good sports and tear the group apart because they are angry that they themselves couldn&#8217;t get the female.<br />
Did any of you have a similar experience and did this change as your peers got older?</p>
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