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	<title>Comments on: The Virtuous Life: Order-Become a Master of the Universe</title>
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		<title>By: Broadswordcallin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broadswordcallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the acroynm  JFDI -just fecking do it- an easy one to remember.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the acroynm  JFDI -just fecking do it- an easy one to remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for confirming what happened while I decided to pick up today and not . . .&quot;later&quot;. I have quit smoking for 9 days  and am forcing myself to not stress on anything, including cleaning up others messes. 

This morning, the thought to leave the mess till later did enter my mind, but then, I said to myself, &quot;just slowly and mechanically attack the mess and it will be done&quot;  Your article and advice, &quot;Do it now&quot; confirmed for me, I am on the right track. 

Not only did I resolve , ahead of time, the obvious stress that a continued messy Kitchen would have acheived, but I am feeling comfortable in a clean environment, and just chalked off my 10 day on my quit progress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for confirming what happened while I decided to pick up today and not . . .&#8221;later&#8221;. I have quit smoking for 9 days  and am forcing myself to not stress on anything, including cleaning up others messes. </p>
<p>This morning, the thought to leave the mess till later did enter my mind, but then, I said to myself, &#8220;just slowly and mechanically attack the mess and it will be done&#8221;  Your article and advice, &#8220;Do it now&#8221; confirmed for me, I am on the right track. </p>
<p>Not only did I resolve , ahead of time, the obvious stress that a continued messy Kitchen would have acheived, but I am feeling comfortable in a clean environment, and just chalked off my 10 day on my quit progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Z. Cortes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Z. Cortes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your article on Order. However, in my desire to fully understand what you were saying about entropy, I decided to check it out. Although I have a good science background (I finished high school in the Philippine Science High School), without being defensive, I have to immediately disavow being one of those &quot;scientists&quot; you might be referring to in your parenthesis, i.e. those who would tell you that you &quot;failed to mention something&quot;. I googled &quot;entropy&quot; for the sake of wanting to really understand it and thus appreciate your article more. I went to this site, and suggest you check it out also: http://www.entropylaw.com/index.html.

I read what they wrote about the more updated way of understanding the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and I realized I had to write you since it implies that you might have to redo your otherwise enjoyable article. Apparently, the 2nd Law where entropy is involved is not a Law of Disorder but a Law of Order. While reading your article, although I was enjoying myself, I was slightly disturbed by the fact that it hinted that this world is moving towards chaos whereas nature, as I observe it tends towards order - hence, the word &quot;cosmos&quot; for the universe. That&#039;s why when I read this more updated interpretation of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, I was, I have to say, relieved, and thought that it made more sense.

Thus, man&#039;s tendency not to fix his bed everyday cannot anymore be explained by the 2nd law of thermodynamics or entropy. According, in fact, to that law, he should fix his bed. Fortunately, doctrine of original sin exists and can perfectly explain it - laziness. Of course, that may be a matter of faith, and others may not accept it (I fully respect that), but it does explain it. The &quot;loophole&quot; you were talking about was not loophole at all, but rather The Law of Maximum Entropy Production (MEP) which you can read here (this is actually a link of that previous URL I wrote above): http://www.entropylaw.com/thermoevolution10.html. 

Your DO IT NOW secret is, according to the Law of MEP the &quot;path or assembly of paths out of otherwise available paths that minimizes the potential or maximizes the entropy at the fastest rate given the constraints.&quot; For me, that is very exciting since I have just found a scientific basis to that &quot;secret&quot; which I myself believe in and practice as often as my laziness doesn&#039;t overcome me. As for the &quot;original sin&quot; part, I am one of those who believe that theology is a true science and so I have no problem putting in that explanation in an otherwise &quot;scientific&quot; discussion, especially where empirical science offers none.

Let me finish by thanking you so much for this wonderful initiative. I intend to go through all these articles on virtues of Franklin and share this with my students and the other members of my faculty. I have bookmarked your site and have downloaded the e-book. You have a great site, something which I believe will do many men and women a lot of good. More power and God bless!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your article on Order. However, in my desire to fully understand what you were saying about entropy, I decided to check it out. Although I have a good science background (I finished high school in the Philippine Science High School), without being defensive, I have to immediately disavow being one of those &#8220;scientists&#8221; you might be referring to in your parenthesis, i.e. those who would tell you that you &#8220;failed to mention something&#8221;. I googled &#8220;entropy&#8221; for the sake of wanting to really understand it and thus appreciate your article more. I went to this site, and suggest you check it out also: <a href="http://www.entropylaw.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.entropylaw.com/index.html</a>.</p>
<p>I read what they wrote about the more updated way of understanding the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and I realized I had to write you since it implies that you might have to redo your otherwise enjoyable article. Apparently, the 2nd Law where entropy is involved is not a Law of Disorder but a Law of Order. While reading your article, although I was enjoying myself, I was slightly disturbed by the fact that it hinted that this world is moving towards chaos whereas nature, as I observe it tends towards order &#8211; hence, the word &#8220;cosmos&#8221; for the universe. That&#8217;s why when I read this more updated interpretation of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, I was, I have to say, relieved, and thought that it made more sense.</p>
<p>Thus, man&#8217;s tendency not to fix his bed everyday cannot anymore be explained by the 2nd law of thermodynamics or entropy. According, in fact, to that law, he should fix his bed. Fortunately, doctrine of original sin exists and can perfectly explain it &#8211; laziness. Of course, that may be a matter of faith, and others may not accept it (I fully respect that), but it does explain it. The &#8220;loophole&#8221; you were talking about was not loophole at all, but rather The Law of Maximum Entropy Production (MEP) which you can read here (this is actually a link of that previous URL I wrote above): <a href="http://www.entropylaw.com/thermoevolution10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.entropylaw.com/thermoevolution10.html</a>. </p>
<p>Your DO IT NOW secret is, according to the Law of MEP the &#8220;path or assembly of paths out of otherwise available paths that minimizes the potential or maximizes the entropy at the fastest rate given the constraints.&#8221; For me, that is very exciting since I have just found a scientific basis to that &#8220;secret&#8221; which I myself believe in and practice as often as my laziness doesn&#8217;t overcome me. As for the &#8220;original sin&#8221; part, I am one of those who believe that theology is a true science and so I have no problem putting in that explanation in an otherwise &#8220;scientific&#8221; discussion, especially where empirical science offers none.</p>
<p>Let me finish by thanking you so much for this wonderful initiative. I intend to go through all these articles on virtues of Franklin and share this with my students and the other members of my faculty. I have bookmarked your site and have downloaded the e-book. You have a great site, something which I believe will do many men and women a lot of good. More power and God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason why Teddy Roosevelt would have never used index cards or some other organizational system is because he was taught how to be person of action and conviction. I grew up without a strong role model when it came to being organized and &quot;getting things done&quot;. I use a system because I need to retrain my disorganized mind. As I use my system I see my thoughts move more and more towards becoming organized and I&#039;ve begun to rely on my system less and less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why Teddy Roosevelt would have never used index cards or some other organizational system is because he was taught how to be person of action and conviction. I grew up without a strong role model when it came to being organized and &#8220;getting things done&#8221;. I use a system because I need to retrain my disorganized mind. As I use my system I see my thoughts move more and more towards becoming organized and I&#8217;ve begun to rely on my system less and less.</p>
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		<title>By: JackUH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackUH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They had a similar term/idea to social entropy as the one outlined in the entry in the Philip K. Dick novel &quot;Do Android&#039;s Dream of Electric Sheep&quot;. That would be &quot;kipple&quot;. And I use that word more often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They had a similar term/idea to social entropy as the one outlined in the entry in the Philip K. Dick novel &#8220;Do Android&#8217;s Dream of Electric Sheep&#8221;. That would be &#8220;kipple&#8221;. And I use that word more often.</p>
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		<title>By: whatwasitodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatwasitodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with this article...and in fact have written something in my own blog about Entropy a few months ago: http://whatwasitodo.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/entry-4-the-entropy-within/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this article&#8230;and in fact have written something in my own blog about Entropy a few months ago: <a href="http://whatwasitodo.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/entry-4-the-entropy-within/" rel="nofollow">http://whatwasitodo.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/entry-4-the-entropy-within/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very true.  A few years ago I hit on almost the same concept I call, &quot;No further action required.&quot;  In my activities when I&#039;m taking an action I always try to take it to completion, to the point where no further action is required.  Instead of putting a dish in the sink, put it in the dishwasher.  When you take the last cup of coffee, set the coffee up for the next pot.  When you get back from a bike ride, check the bike over, lub it and wipe it down.  It takes so much more time and effort to do a job in several steps, because you, &quot;didn&#039;t have the time&quot; to do it completely.  An old Army saying, &quot;There&#039;s never enough time to do it right, but always enough to do it over.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true.  A few years ago I hit on almost the same concept I call, &#8220;No further action required.&#8221;  In my activities when I&#8217;m taking an action I always try to take it to completion, to the point where no further action is required.  Instead of putting a dish in the sink, put it in the dishwasher.  When you take the last cup of coffee, set the coffee up for the next pot.  When you get back from a bike ride, check the bike over, lub it and wipe it down.  It takes so much more time and effort to do a job in several steps, because you, &#8220;didn&#8217;t have the time&#8221; to do it completely.  An old Army saying, &#8220;There&#8217;s never enough time to do it right, but always enough to do it over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ben.

Shaun-
We actually did quite a bit of research before we we wrote the article. And we&#039;re not trying to teach people about entropy from a scientific standpoint. 

The comparison between entropy and a clean and messy room is actually quite a common one. I first heard it from my physics teacher in college. But scientists have admittedly moved away from defining entropy as disorder, and now define it as the measure of energy dispersal. Still, looking at entropy as the measure of things falling into chaos is very useful. It may not be strictly scientific, but it works as a way to describe what we all experience-things moving from order to disorder. Things naturally take the path of least resistance. This may not be how scientists use the term entropy but there aren&#039;t any other terms that will work, so we&#039;re simply co-opting it and using it in a broader manner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ben.</p>
<p>Shaun-<br />
We actually did quite a bit of research before we we wrote the article. And we&#8217;re not trying to teach people about entropy from a scientific standpoint. </p>
<p>The comparison between entropy and a clean and messy room is actually quite a common one. I first heard it from my physics teacher in college. But scientists have admittedly moved away from defining entropy as disorder, and now define it as the measure of energy dispersal. Still, looking at entropy as the measure of things falling into chaos is very useful. It may not be strictly scientific, but it works as a way to describe what we all experience-things moving from order to disorder. Things naturally take the path of least resistance. This may not be how scientists use the term entropy but there aren&#8217;t any other terms that will work, so we&#8217;re simply co-opting it and using it in a broader manner.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe you missed this:

&#039;This is a very cursory explanation, so please all you scientists out there, don’t tell me that I failed to mention something. I know I did.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you missed this:</p>
<p>&#8216;This is a very cursory explanation, so please all you scientists out there, don’t tell me that I failed to mention something. I know I did.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: shaun Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can only hope you are joking about the entropy thing. I happen to be a physics student, and what you are describing is nothing to do with entropy. If you want to decrease the entropy of a messy room, try cooling it down by  degree or two. Entropy is a scientific term, please don&#039;t use it as another word for disorder.
Next time, maybe try researching it  before trying to teach others about it.
(rant finished).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only hope you are joking about the entropy thing. I happen to be a physics student, and what you are describing is nothing to do with entropy. If you want to decrease the entropy of a messy room, try cooling it down by  degree or two. Entropy is a scientific term, please don&#8217;t use it as another word for disorder.<br />
Next time, maybe try researching it  before trying to teach others about it.<br />
(rant finished).</p>
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